619utahfan
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I dont understand how a team can be so terrible on the road, its like they dont even try. Carrol looked good, which will probably mean even less minutes for burks, but i guess its impossible to get less minutes then zero.
Game #10 - Utah Jazz at Philadelphia 76ers - 11/16/2012 5:00 PM MST Root Sports, ESPN
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gregbroncs
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Watching every sixer take balls out of Jefferson's and Millsap's hands was frustrating as hell. I don't think either one of them even attempted to box out all night.
mellow
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This opinion won't be popular......
I don't think Al is the problem. He can be productive, and he is passing much much better. But when he has to carry the team the task is sometimes too much for him. I see the problem being the wings. No scoring, no rebounding, no defense, no heart.
What the jazz need is a dynamic wing who is not afraid to attack the basket or take the shot or otherwise be the man. I think that kind of player would take the pressure off of Al and it would also allow Ty to play Favors more without worrying about Favors not so developed offense.
I don't think Al is the problem. He can be productive, and he is passing much much better. But when he has to carry the team the task is sometimes too much for him. I see the problem being the wings. No scoring, no rebounding, no defense, no heart.
What the jazz need is a dynamic wing who is not afraid to attack the basket or take the shot or otherwise be the man. I think that kind of player would take the pressure off of Al and it would also allow Ty to play Favors more without worrying about Favors not so developed offense.
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CarteBlanche
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Definitely will not be staying up until 3am if it results in us putting zero effort in like this 
//r00t 4 Jazz
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I know right, Collins led his team to the 8th seed last season in a weaker eastern conference despite them getting off to a hot start and a bad finish. Where as Corbin ruined a sure fire Finals team to some how get off to a slow start but come on strong at the end to eek into the playoffs all in spite of his sucktatude.
*note I am not saying he's done everything I'd like to see as well*
gregbroncs
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AJ and Millsap are supposed to be our go to guys. They play no defense and Jefferson refused to do anything but take Jumpers over his defender and you want to blame the backcourt?
We lost because our starters don't know how to play without somebody cheering them on. The starting lineup for this team is pathetic and needs to change. All of Jefferson, Marvin and Hayward need to be benched. Start Favors, Millsap, Burks, Mo and Carrolle. At least with that lineup you know you will be playing with energy.
gregbroncs
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His passing is not better. In fact it is worse that he is trying and losing the ball than when he was just forcing a shot. And Al's defense is non existent. It's worse than Boozer at this point. At least Boozer blocked out and got the rebound when they missed. Jefferson doesn't even bother doing that.
We have the wing you want on the bench. His name is Burks. But for some reason our coach won't play him at all.
Our wings can play decent defense they just don't have anybody backing them up. It's no coincidence that our defense improve when Favors is on the floor. Because our wings can play more aggressive and worry less about a guy going unmolested toward the basket.
Julie Greengiant
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Our dynamic wing player is Gordon Hayward. He has been relegated to spot-up shooter when he should be the primary playmaker in the offense. If you ran him at point in the second unit, you wouldn't need to rely so heavily on Tinsley and could maybe find minutes for guys like Burks and Carroll.
What did Mo Williams do? He was getting torched by Holiday and had zero assists for most of the game. He padded his stats at the end of the game. Marvin Williams 2 pts. Hayward zero rebounds and 3-8 shooting. Foye was invisible most of the game. Yea AJ and Millsap sucked on defense but Millsap kept the Jazz in the game during the 3rd period. It seems as though you missed most of the game if you don't think the back court weren't the big contributors to the Jazz losing.
Jazz4ever
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You mean that guy named Burks who rots on the bench? The guy who was top 3 or 4 of all shooting guards in free throws attempted per minute last season?