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Game Thread: Utah @ BYU, Sat. 9/21 8:15pm MT, ESPN2

Also unlikely as ****.


Ya im sure Ute fans are right...... No one in byu's program has ever done anything good for anyone or inspired anybody.
Im sure all byu students and players are scum of the earth horrible people.... I mean can you believe how bad of a person you have to be to go to the prison and talk with the inmates and try to help them and inspire them.

Ute fans, you definitely have the proper response to this article. The article says that the byu football team went to the prison to talk with the inmates and that they actually inspired those inmates...... So of course the only proper response would be to bash the article and talk ****.

How refreshing would it be for a Ute fan to say something like "Good on the byu football program for trying to make a difference in the inmates lives"? (especially since there are so many Mormon ute fans, it seems like there would be a few who would support this kind of activity)

Still have not heard a ute fan say anything positive about how byu holds it players accountable when they break the rules.... That would be incredible to hear as well considering how many programs around the country try to cheat the system...... Then we see byu suspending star players for breaking rules and all I see is trash talk.
 
Year after year I hate the utes less and less and even find myself liking a lot of their players, and then ute fans show me how much hate they have for anything byu related and it just makes it tough to like the utes.

Byu does a good deed and goes to the prison to try to help out some inmates.... Lets bash em.
Hadley goes out and has some drinks at a club, something lots of us do myself included, byu suspends him for five games for it..... Lets bash em.

Ute students make a video making fun of missionaries..... barely a word is said about it.
Seems about right.
 
Possibly that hadley made a mistake and is now trying to change and redeem himself, repent, and learn from his mistakes.

Maybe some of the people in prison also made a mistake and are try to change and redeem themselves as well.

Maybe that created a connection between some of the inmates and hadley.

I don't know but its possible

You (and Spazz, who likey) need to read the article again. Even in this wildly cinematic tale Hadley isn't doing much on his own initiative: he's hesitant to get on the bus, he speaks only after asking if the coach wanted him to, etc. Your post does very little to answer UGLI's question.
 
It's funny that in a day and time where every human being alive is carrying a cell phone camera that none of these beer pouring incidents have ever been caught on tape. What has been caught on tape is a byu fan trying to assault coach Whittinghams wife, a byu fan attacking a Utes cheerleader on the field, byu fans throwing trash at referees, and a byu player yelling "**** you" at a Utes fan. Why is there no videos of things like this with Utes fans?

There is a 0% chance the beer incident ever happened. I've been to every Utes home game the last 10 years, and it's a laughable scenario, just like the byu "remember the titans" prison story.

PS: I generally think green is a retard but he nailed it with Max Hall lying about beer incidents at both schools he attended.


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You (and Spazz, who likey) need to read the article again. Even in this surly cinematic tale Hadley isn't doing much on his own initiative: he's hesitant to get on the bus, he speaks only after asking if the coach wanted him tox etc. Your post does very little to answer UGLI's question.

Ugli asked why the inmates would GAF about hadleys situation... My answer is that both the inmates and Hadley made some mistakes. Both the inmates and Hadley are trying to redeem/rehabilitate themselves.
The fact that Hadley was reluctant to speak maybe showed the inmates that he was embarrassed by what he had done. (maybe the inmates are embarrassed and wouldn't want to talk about some of the things that they have done)

My answer to uglis question is simply: maybe the inmates understand what Hadley is feeling and therefore have some kind of a connection with him

But im sure that is totally impossible right.
 
It's funny that in a day and time where every human being alive is carrying a cell phone camera that none of these beer pouring incidents have ever been caught on tape. What has been caught on tape is a byu fan trying to assault coach Whittinghams wife, a byu fan attacking a Utes cheerleader on the field, byu fans throwing trash at referees, and a byu player yelling "**** you" at a Utes fan. Why is there no videos of things like this with Utes fans?

There is a 0% chance the beer incident ever happened. I've been to every Utes home game the last 10 years, and it's a laughable scenario, just like the byu "remember the titans" prison story.

PS: I generally think green is a retard but he nailed it with Max Hall lying about beer incidents at both schools he attended.


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Well you must remember that every byu transgression caught on video is talked about by Utah fans over and over forever.
 
I have been to utes games.... lots of beer is consumed, I'm surprised you didnt know this.
Maybe max hall lied but to say the way you know he is lying is because there couldnt possibly be beer available in the football stadium is flat out wrong

I would be willing to bet that 90-95% of beer consumed at Utah games happens outside the stadium during tailgates. I have a friend who's a die hard BYU fan and jack Mormon. He has successfully smuggled alcohol into LES and has been known to be drunk off his *** at many a BYU game. It happens. However , it's hard to smuggle in anything into any stadium that us bigger than a flask. How did the folks who supposedly dumped the beer get all of it in? If they were drinking beer during the game and still had some to dump, they would have had to bring in an amount almost impossible to sneak past security.

When you factor that in with no witnesses in a stadium full of people, no evidence what so ever, etc. it doesn't take a genius to see that it never happened.
 
Well you must remember that every byu transgression caught on video is talked about by Utah fans over and over forever.

And the transgressions that AREN'T caught on video are talked about over and over by byu fans....


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And the transgressions that AREN'T caught on video are talked about over and over by byu fans....


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Im one of the more vocal byu fans on jazzfanz and I don't believe I have ever said a word about any of the accusations about ute fans.

Again.... ute fans talk way more **** about byu than byu fans do about the utes.

Byu goes to the prison to try to do some good..... Talk **** about it. Why?
 
I would be willing to bet that 90-95% of beer consumed at Utah games happens outside the stadium during tailgates. I have a friend who's a die hard BYU fan and jack Mormon. He has successfully smuggled alcohol into LES and has been known to be drunk off his *** at many a BYU game. It happens. However , it's hard to smuggle in anything into any stadium that us bigger than a flask. How did the folks who supposedly dumbed the beer get all of it in. If they were drinking beer during the game and still had some to dump, they would have had to bring in an amount almost impossible to sneak past security.

When you factor that in with no witnesses in a stadium full of people, no evidence what do ever, etc. it doesn't take a genius to see that it never happened.

I've seen 3 beer cans inside RES. 3 cans in my whole life, and a guy with two of them got thrown out.

Anyone who drinks brings in a flask. They take alcohol enforcement serious as **** inside the stadium. I've seen dozens of flasks (i bring one most every game and got kicked out for it earlier this season) but it's stupid to bring in beer for obvious reasons to anyone that actually drinks.


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