Gamethread: Game 1 of the 1st Round. Utah Jazz @ Houston Rockets. 7:30 MST

Discussion in 'Utah Jazz' started by Alfalfa, Apr 14, 2019.

  1. Ostertag>Duncan

    Ostertag>Duncan My Members Premium Contributor 2019 Award Winner

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    Do you have dementia? You literally posted that you were encouraged by what you saw in the first. Do you want me to repost it before you delete it?? Please go away you delusional maggot infected **** for brains. Bye Felicia.
     
  2. Stoked

    Stoked Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    Lmfao, not what I expected but let’s do it. Stupid *** combination of letters. Stupid *** combo, why would you name your kid Shad? Just punch the baby and get it over with
     
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  3. Sean

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    I think DL has done a good job building Utah into a pretty okay franchise that punches above their class since, you know, we're Utah and ... it's, well, uh ... Utah.

    Jazz fans are, by and large, spoiled. We've had a consistent, successful franchise for pretty much 35 years now. Since the franchise's first trip to the NBA playoffs in 1984, they've only missed the postseason eight times. Not a lot of franchises can say that.

    But that success has resulted in raised expectations. We're not like, say, Phoenix, who, up until the last few seasons, was almost an exact mirror of the Jazz in every conceivable way - small market Western Conference teams with a ****-ton of wins, a lot of postseason berths and zero NBA titles. From 1976 to 2010, a similar stretch as the playoff run I mentioned above for the Jazz, the Suns only missed the playoffs six times. Again, a very similar stretch to that of the Jazz currently. 2010 was the last time Phoenix made the postseason and they're still nowhere near the level of returning consistently to the NBA playoffs.

    The raised expectations are real, though - as they were real for Phoenix in the 10s. It's a big reason they cycled through coaches and pushed out the man who's leading the Rockets so easily over the Jazz.

    I am glad Utah is consistent and not ready to blow it all up and turn the franchise into Sacramento or Phoenix.

    But I also feel we've got two options here: accept our lot in life as a pretty good team that is unlikely ever to make the push we all want, which means we'll probably have a ceiling of fifth in the West and, at best, a trip to the semifinals before bowing out, or push a bit more knowing the risks - but also understanding the rewards.

    Frankly, I don't expect this team to be better than they've been the last two seasons. I've conceded that. I get a lot of hate for it, expressing this idea that the last twenty years have been terrifyingly consistent in what the Jazz are as a franchise, but it's what I believe. Hell, the Jazz had two of the best players in NBA history on their roster for 20 years and still only managed to win the West twice.

    I just feel we're good at developing a pretty consistent, solid franchise year over year but Utah's limits as a state, and a team, are too much a hindrance for us to take that next step into a team that truly, legitimately poses a threat to win the NBA Finals. Shame me for it. Attack me for it. That's just how I see it.

    I've thrown this stat out before, but it kinda hammers home what I'm preaching: the Jazz has the fifth-best regular season winning percentage in NBA history. That's remarkable for a team that started out as horribly bad as they did in their New Orleans days. But when it comes to the playoffs? They only have the fifteenth-best winning percentage in NBA history. That's quite the contrast. This franchise has rarely been built for the playoffs. Even for a bulk of the Stockton and Malone days. We'd get there. We'd sometimes put up a fight. But it always ended with a loss. And I'm afraid it always will.

    The Jazz is the Minnesota Vikings of the NBA.
     
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  4. Ostertag>Duncan

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    Lol. Jazzfanz has been like this for at least 14 years, which is when I got here.
     
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  5. Stoked

    Stoked Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    In this we agree. This summer it is literally time to leave it all on the table. Get that 3rd Star. If they are wishy washy then offer yourself or your wife up as part of the trade. Whatever it takes.

    Make. It. Happen.
     
  6. Zombie

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    Y'all are killing me
     
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  7. Zombie

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    We're at our best when we're at our worst lmao
     
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  8. Shad

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    Quality human beings in "Stoked" and "firegirl." Please, tell me more how much you hate me, nateboz, or anyone else. Take your anger out on the internet more please
     
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  9. firegirl

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    No one is going to read that novel, Sean.

    And who the hell are you?

    And what kind of stupid *** name is Sean!?
     
  10. jazzETX

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    I was at the game and will be going to game 2 on Wednesday. was ugly as hell with sh!tty defense on harden, poor defensive rotations, and terrible guard/wing play. rubio can't shoot for sh!t and despite his points/assists statline it was easy for Houston to play 4 on 5 when the jazz were on offense with him in the game. i hate to say it, but dante was clearly missed; raul can't be played in this series as he is too damn small/unathletic. they keyed in on donovan and he had very little space to operate. team just doesn't have enough athletes/creators. the second best athlete on the team is a rookie who is still very green, but i think as the series moves forward, grayson has to be played to take some pressure off of don. jae, joe, royce, thabo, and kyle all played like dogsh!t. rudy still complains too much and doesn't run back on defense when he's whining to the refs.
     
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  11. Jack Strop

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    It's not Hood or Burks. It's telling Millsap to take a hike so Lindsey can do a half-*** rebuild. He had ONE top-5 pick. If you're going to do a rebuild, do it proper. Get multiple high picks, you know, in case you happen to waste 5 first round picks on PG's and STILL don't have a decent one.

    It's keeping payroll at the bottom of the league, while spouting nonsense about financial flexibility YEAR AFTER YEAR. And then bringing in JJ and Fat Boris in a futile attempt to placate your star player. Based on Lindsey's failure to date, Hayward would have been foolish to stay. Ainge had shown he was willing to spend money to build a team. Dennis never did. Even this summer, what did Lindsey do with the MLE? Again, refused to spend it. Plenty of players signed 1 year deals.

    How many teams have been able to make trades because they had a pipeline of solid, young players? Dennis has Rudy and Donovan. And maybe Joe would have decent value (like a late 1st to a contender). Beyond that...nada. Lindsey brings in jetsam and flotsam. But he's a master hypnotist. Who else could fool so many of you that the Jazz have this wonderful development program? Jazz can make all-stars out of scrubs. They have the formula that no other team in the league has.

    But wait, he'll certainly make a move once the GS dynasty has run it's course. Or is that after Houston no longer has Harden and CP3. I know...it's after Giannis retires, Maybe THEN the 3rd rebuild will be complete and Lindsey will decide Utah can spend money to build a better team.
     
  12. firegirl

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    Yeah, Stoked!!! A man after my own heart.
     
  13. JazzyFresh

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    There was always some but I could ignore it without noticing it. Now it's like every loss I see it. Oh well, I'm going to bed.
     
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  14. firegirl

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    I just took a giant Shad in the toilet. Felt good too.
     
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  15. Stoked

    Stoked Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    Dude, you literally **** on everything to happen on this board. Don’t talk about quality people.

    I don’t hate @nateboz at all. I strongly disagree with him here. But you inability to see the difference is no ones failing but your own

    you intentionally **** all over this board. So don’t play victim when you finally get called out.

    For the record I don’t hate you either. Even though I have yet to see a post from you that isn’t ****. I take ***** all the time. I just leave them in my toilet. Not on jazzfanz.
     
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  16. Zombie

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    STFU. We've all read your thousands of front office bashing posts over the last few years. Why the **** do you even bother typing new posts out when it's the same **** over and over and over again. Save yourself some time and copy and paste that ****.
     
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  17. nateboz

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    Rigby brought them to Utah. Lindsey was a part of it yes. He obviously works with the president of the Jazz on it. I'll give you props

    Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
     
  18. Jack Strop

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    Why you mad bro? At least the Jazz aren't the Pistons. They lost by 35!

    Ok, let me copy and paste. IMO, Lindsey is a ****** GM who should lose his job.
     
  19. Ostertag>Duncan

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    I'm sorry you paid and had to see that garbage.
     
  20. Jazzta

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    We did beat the Rockets twice during the regular season you know, once without Rudy.
     

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