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Gay marriage in Utah put on hold
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DutchJazzer
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nah cus i already married them. he gets the dudes
DutchJazzer
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so you are saying the government did not take a religous concept and applied laws/rights concering it.
thereby governing a religious concept? in effect taking control over it. i call that stealing. you cant deny that the government started governing marriage.
Darkwing Duck
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Marriage is about alliances, pooling of resources, granting sexual rights amongst other privileges. Has been since before religion "stole" it, using your terminology. Government deals in that aspect of marriage.
Yes. Seriously all the Bible talks about is "laying" with someone in a sexual context.
DutchJazzer
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guess moe is sarcastic.
but just goes to show how darkwing duck is uneducated. about this whole marriage thingy. will try and educate him, he probably realize i am right and crawl back under his rock.
i have only read new testament once. and never read the book of Mormon(3rd testament). so i cant really speak on those 2.
but old testament and related stuff i read a million times.
but marriage in the old testament is about alliances, pooling of resources en granting of sexual rights.
dont know what you think marriage originally is.
but in the old testament lots of rights and or privileges are connected with marriage. not only sexual wise and offspring wise.
most of em are there to care for offspring.
for example if a man dies the care of the children and the mother falls on the brother of the man. if the woman so chooses(a way of having "social/familial" security). in judaism there are even "unfair" laws toward men. or should i say in favor for women
for example if a married woman has a child that is not her husbands child. he cannot refute paternity. in essence the child becomes HIS responsibility. he should threat such a child as his own.
also before marriage the man must set up a contract as "wedding gift" a so called kituba. this contract also states the "compensation" in case of divorce. there are things that are a must in the contract for example the husband must provide a home, furnished and all and should live together in this home. there is also (not in marriage contract but stil a requirment) that the man must provide minimum provisions.
so darkwing please go educate yourself on marriage before commenting again. seeing as old testament is also a part of christian and LDS. i am to guess it is the same with their belief system
yes governments just STARTED governing a well thought out religious concept, that created family values, had a positive effect on society and gave social security to kids and raped it by defiling it and letting gays get married. and it not being about family and children. and bounding these children to a father something a inner city ghetto ******* like obama and various other evil politicians knows nothing about.
government is organized crime. and not a solution. they should not meddle in most things.
so darkwing duck please stfu and study the concept of religious marriage before ever trying to put me in place on this subject. religion did not steal it THE GOVERNMENT DID
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DutchJazzer
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freedom of religion in my humble opinion also means their religious concept and terms must not be mocked and imposed upon.
so before changing terms the government should take it up with the religious leaders. because marriage is a religious term.
by allowing gays to get married imho opinioin is unconstitutional. heck even more unconstitutional than gun control. seeing as this impedes the first amendment.
this obama generation things equality means everybody has the right to a marriage and an ipod.
this obama self entitled generations thinks equal rights means if my neighbour worked 100 hours and bought a nice car. person b who is lazy as **** also deserves that nice car.
so excluding gays from marriage has nothing to do with equal rights
That's not what I'm saying. I'm asking you how many thousands of years ago it started.
Didn't seem like a problem until recently...when gay people wanted the same legal benefits from long term committed relationships that heterosexual people enjoy.
Darkwing Duck
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So let me get this straight. Dutch is citing a religious text, something that if it wasn't believed by a lot of people would be classified as historical fiction, to try and prove that marriage is originally a religious concept?
And I'm the uneducated one?
And I'm the uneducated one?
DutchJazzer
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yes you are. because you said
i just show you that that is untrue. because long before government meddle in marriage.
religioun also dealt with THOSE aspects you mentioned
Darkwing Duck
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Where did I say religion didn't do that? Or religious based governmental entities? You use the Old Testament which is full of theocratic governnments. Marriage has been doing that long before religion got involved. Government just deals with that portion of marriage.