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Gay Marriage is GO...

the government should get out of the marriage business. they should have never medled in it.
that solution i think would have avoided all this crap and demonstration and civil right stuff.
in israel the government doesnt meddle with marriages. they have cohabitation rights for everyone.
so if you lived with a brother or sister you get same rights as married couples gay couples or college roommates.

thiose rights where granted since 1994. but hey the liebrals hate israel so they wont try and copy something that works
 
This is interesting. Do you have any source material I can peruse?

Here are some stats on education levels and support for gay marriage from last year. https://www.apnorc.org/projects/Pag...-a-shift-in-americans-attitudes0305-8272.aspx

And here are some stats for divorce rates:

https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2013/a...by-gender-race-and-educational-attainment.htm

I think some correlation can be made from the overlap of the two facts. Being worse educated makes you statistically more likely to oppose gay marriage and statistically more likely to get divorced.
 
Of course, some of this might be a symptom rather than cause. People with higher education are also much more likely to marry later and life and much more likely to have higher income. I'm sure there are studies looking at those two factors and divorce rates, as well.
 
Here are some stats on education levels and support for gay marriage from last year. https://www.apnorc.org/projects/Pag...-a-shift-in-americans-attitudes0305-8272.aspx

And here are some stats for divorce rates:

https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2013/a...by-gender-race-and-educational-attainment.htm

I think some correlation can be made from the overlap of the two facts. Being worse educated makes you statistically more likely to oppose gay marriage and statistically more likely to get divorced.


or some would argue that now marriage is about love. not about procreating and starting a healthy balanced family unit.
so when people get married for the wrong reason only aka love and not for desire to create a family. the marriages wont last. cus loving someone does not last forever. but loving your offspring usually does.

get what agrumeent i am trying to make. ofcourse most people will disagree
 
intersted to hear colton's sentiments surrounding this-- he was staunchly anti this legislation in recent history (as are many others on this forum, I'm sure).
 
Marriage, as defined by the people of Utah, has been redefined, first by the federal courts and today the outcome of that decision has been upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court. I am disappointed with the decision by the court to usurp state authority and overrule the voice of the people of Utah as demonstrated by legislation with regard to marriage. I am also very concerned with the overwhelming trend to diminish state autonomy. I believe states should have the right to determine their own laws regarding marriage. Clearly, the majority of the justices disagree and their decision provides finality with respect to the law.

From Guberner Butthurt's Facebook post. I don't agree, so it's not an issue about of religion, but states rights. They knew they were beat, and didn't have a leg to stand on.. so they made a new leg out of nothing.

Conservatives: Kicking and screaming to the end.
 
And one from the church:

"The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints acknowledges that following today's ruling by the Supreme Court, same-sex marriages are now legal in the United States. The Court's decision does not alter the Lord's doctrine that marriage is a union between a man and a woman ordained by God. While showing respect for those who think differently, the Church will continue to teach and promote marriage between a man and a woman as a central part of our doctrine and practice."

While yet the 12th article of faith reads:

We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
 
You can sustain something and still disagree with it. For example, I disagree with not being able to get in the HOV lane any time I want, but I "sustain" the law by following it. I sustain my Bishop even though I think he's an elitist douche.
 
And one from the church:



While yet the 12th article of faith reads:

Which sustain were you talking about?

sus·tain
səˈstān/
verb
verb: sustain; 3rd person present: sustains; past tense: sustained; past participle: sustained; gerund or present participle: sustaining

1.
strengthen or support physically or mentally.

"this thought had sustained him throughout the years"
synonyms: comfort, help, assist, encourage, succor, support, give strength to, buoy up, carry, cheer up, hearten; informalbuck up
"her memories sustained her"
cause to continue or be prolonged for an extended period or without interruption.
"he cannot sustain a normal conversation"
synonyms: continue, carry on, keep up, keep alive, maintain, preserve, conserve, perpetuate, retain More
"they were unable to sustain a coalition"
continuous, ongoing, steady, continual, constant, prolonged, persistent, nonstop, perpetual, unabating, relentless, rolling, unrelieved, unbroken, never-ending, incessant, unceasing, ceaseless, around-the-clock, round-the-clock
"her sustained battle against alcoholism"
antonyms: sporadic
(of a performer) represent (a part or character) convincingly.
"he sustained the role with burly resilience"
bear (the weight of an object) without breaking or falling.
"he sagged against her so that she could barely sustain his weight"
synonyms: bear, support, carry, stand, keep up, prop up, shore up, underpin
"the balcony might not sustain the weight"
2.
undergo or suffer
(something unpleasant, especially an injury).
"he died after sustaining severe head injuries"
synonyms: undergo, experience, suffer, endure
"she sustained slight injuries"
 
You can sustain something and still disagree with it. For example, I disagree with not being able to get in the HOV lane any time I want, but I "sustain" the law by following it. I sustain my Bishop even though I think he's an elitist douche.

Which is fair.
 
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