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George Hill coming to Utah

If it were a strong draft class, everyone from pick #3 on wouldn't be trying to trade their draft pick. Remember how many people tried to trade their pick last year? To take pick #12 and turn it into a certainty is a pretty good move, especially when there were people with better picks trying to do the same.
 
BTW for everybody who will feel compelled to **** on that deal in the future because we missed on player X(almost certainly there will be a player in the 12-60 range who will end up high end starter and even an all-star), I want you to tell us right here and right now who that player is. I don't want you to play with the field against George Hill. Either state right now your pick, or don't dare bring it up when player X blows up.
 
stitches said:
BTW for everybody who will feel compelled to **** on that deal in the future because we missed on player X(almost certainly there will be a player in the 12-60 range who will end up high end starter and even an all-star), I want you to tell us right here and right now who that player is. I don't want you to play with the field against George Hill. Either state right now your pick, or don't dare bring it up when player X blows up.
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Already recorded in a stick is post. People made their bandwagon picks. I said I was on the trade the pick bandwagon.
 
Stoked said:
Already recorded in a stick is post. People made their bandwagon picks. I said I was on the trade the pick bandwagon.
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Well bandwagon picks are picks at any position, for instance I liked Bender, who is projected 3-8. Stitches is asking specifically who they would take at 12.
 
fishonjazz said:
So what does everyone see happening for the minutes/playing time breakdown between hill, exum, hood, hayward, burks, mack, ingles and neto?

In the normal competitive game with everyone healthy....
I think hill starts at pg
Hood starts at shooting guard
Hayward starts at small forward.

Hayward gets 35 minutes
Hill gets 28
Hood gets 31
Burks gets 28
Which leaves 22 remaining minutes for exum (I think my math is right??? 48 minutes each position of pg, sg, and sf?)
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Actually, since players miss on average about 10% of the games (if I recall correctly), the correct number to use is about 52 mins total at each position. Not 48 mins, as weird as that seems.
 
My number one wishlist item for the offseason was a bonafide all star (pipe dream).

My number two wishlist item was a vet or two.

My number three wishlist item was a defensive player who could help us close out 4th quarters without being a liability on offense.

With George Hill we get #2 and #3 from my checklist. I think we get some additional flexibility to play with our other assets a bit. It also bumps Jingles and CJ back on the roster a bit. Jingles is an amazing 13th option but a poor 7th man.

Some of y'alls have heartburn that we didn't get an all star with this particular trade. But folks, we traded the #12 pick in a buyer's market for a guy who gave us one of the main things we missed last season. WELL DONE DENNIS!
 
To answer the question about #12, I think Luwawu will be a very good player in the league. And I think it's possible that we trade back up into the 1st to snatch him should he fall a little. There's just something I see in his game that will translate well to the NBA game.
 
Stoked said:
You have to look at what I bolded. I was not commenting on the Hill v. Teague.

I was talking about your Hood/Hayward v. Teague argument. While you are factual in your statement you also leave you very relevant facts that add context. Jazz suffered huge injuries to 4 of their top 6 players. Not ingles or Burke mind you but Exum, Gobert, Burks and Favors.

ignoring that for the sake of making your argument look good only damages it.
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I disagree. Hood and Hayward were not injured for extended periods of time. I assume you are having the Jazz top 6 players be:

Favors
Gobert
Hayward
Hood
Burks
Exum

Yeah, they did have injuries to four of those, but Hood and Hayward were not any of them. And Teague is better than any of them.

All I am asking for is to get better. Yes, the Jazz are a lot better with Hill. A lot better. But, Teague is a better player than Hill. And it looks like we could have gotten Teague.

That bothers me. It's similar to the Jazz not trading for Harden when OKC wanted Kanter. Well, we gave OKC Kanter a few years later for nothing. I hope this trade doesn't end up being the same situation.
 
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