Getting diddled by Hayward: a game thread

[AverageJoe]

I would keep Rudy. I would keep Bojan. I would keep Royce. I would reduce Joe Ingles' role. The Jazz are actually just one player away, imo, but that player is an athletic, dynamic wing who can shoot, pass, drive and defend at a high level.

I think you've more or less captured my sentiment. Conley was supposed to be our one player away guy. That's the tragedy of this season.

Lament no Rubio on a nightly basis but what can you do, in general I like the make-up this team very much. At the very least we are a given to make the playoffs, but unfortunately I'm not seeing contender any more. (next win streak will surely change my mind again)

Separate thought(s):
-Rudy is the the pillar of this team IMO. Lose anyone else for any reason and I think it's absorb-able but Rudy is what makes us formidable on any given night. Don't understand how we've lost so much faith in him overnight. (after he was an allstar selection no less)
-Like Bogey, potential game breaker, but when most of your value is based on your shooting you have to expect the odd problematic night. I'm ok with that.
-LOVE Clarkson. I think he's nearly indispensable at this point. Revolutionized our bench.
-Mitchell seems to have some maturity issues (on court only;ball managment/poor shot selection) that are starting to get on my nerves. Getting his numbers but on balance not helping us win at the moment.
-Royce is a bonafide starter but not Allstar. Gets a good performance evaluation from me.
-Screw Conley

Miscellaneous: Mudiay really pulled his socks up over the course of the season. Not a key piece but boy do I like him.

 

[416Klawzz]

I'd keep Donovan, Clarkson and Bogey. The rest, give them the pink slip. And Rudy, gets so clumsy and spaces out. Why? He could've grown out of that already but isn't.

Bojan sucks and is one dimensional

 

[416Klawzz]

Too bad Clarkson picked tonight to have his worst game as a Jazz player since Bojan already had dibs.

Clarkson still owned Bojan. He doesn't even try on D.

 

[AverageJoe]

I saw Clarkson's night as mediocre, not actively bad. Bojan's was decidedly sub-par. Bojan has been incredible at times this season and Clarkson IS the bench. Both are really nice pieces but I miss "whole is greater than the sum of its parts" feel of last years team. The starters used to play up to the competition not down and the bench was deep as faack, though on paper our stars are brighter and theoretically we are still deepish. Regardless I miss the chemistry of last years team. Sigh/shrug.

Not really mad at anyone tonight except Conley who I am always mad at anyway, just disappointed.

 

[New_Jazz_Order]

Getting "diddled" by Hayward, and before that by Rubio. It's dildo season. Can't weight till Favors comes to town.

 

[LoPo]

I still can’t believe this play. Gobert can’t be happy about that.

Its easier said than done. Mitchell would find it tough to throw that pass over Theiss while two of the best perimeter defenders in the NBA (Smart and Brown) were baiting Donovan to try a bounce pass.

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[LoPo]

I would keep Rudy. I would keep Bojan. I would keep Royce. I would reduce Joe Ingles' role. The Jazz are actually just one player away, imo, but that player is an athletic, dynamic wing who can shoot, pass, drive and defend at a high level.

You could add Tatum, Kawhi, Siakim or a similar guy to Rudy, Bojan, Royce and limited Joe and be about where we are right now.

Clarkson has led to wins. Donovan has led to wins. Our issue is that we lack numerous perimeter defenders. We lack switchable strong defenders.

I watch this team and think that healthy Favors and Crowder compliment the roster better than Gobert. Yes Gobert helps us beat the below .500 teams but he struggles against the upper echelon teams that have waves of good athletic players.

And I agree with whoever said it - something is wrong between Rudy and Donovan.

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[Deleted member 365]

Bogey had 3 points tonight.

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but we had to get rid of favors cuz of spacing and shooting and analytics and stuff...

 

[Deleted member 365]

last season everyone knew shooting was a problem, so the FO "tried something different" by exchanging favs/rubio/crowder for conley/bojan.

now everyone know size/athleticism/hustle is a problem. so the FO will again "try something different" by letting go conley/bojan, bringing back favs/crowder.

just wait

Can we do that right now? Last year’s team was at least watchable

 

[Deleted member 365]

No we didn’t. Our defense was atrocious and we failed to rebound. How many times did we have guys standing around and watching while their guys got the offensive board? Snyder a sounding more and more like Ty Corbin.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I turned the game off after Smart hit those all those 3s in a row. Effort seemed a lot better to me, but Tatum just wrecked us. Niang was playing the D of his life on a few possessions and Tatum just nailed side step jumpers in his face. Jazz just don't have the bodies to make elite offensive forwards uncomfortable.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I do want to say... TB was much better last night and was very active... I'd like to see that more. Still absolutely invisible at the rim on defense, but hell... even Rudy seems invisible lately.

Niang was good too... we need to see that more if those are the guys we are riding off the bench.