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Global Warming could be worse than we thought-- paper from Science

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Would you want to ride on one of those trains in the pictures I posted? I don't think anybody would. Including the people in those pictures.
I'm quite sure that they are not living that way by choice. They over populated their area and now they are paying the price and hating it I bet.

Those overcrowded trains are an infrastructure issue in a developing country. The Netherlands(1,055/sqmi) is more densely populated than either India(1,014/sqmi) or Pakistan(621/sqmi).

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Lol. I forgot to post this here but the other day I had a funny experience re climate change.

I was sitting in church in what is normally an extremely conservative meeting. This old guy who lives next to me started talking about how much god loves us, and used climate change as an example. He has always had a tough time with his apricots growing due to the climate being to cold in our area. He has been praying for years for the Lord to "temper the climate" so he could have apricots before he dies. He was so happy that he is going to have apricots this year.

Climate change is human caused guys, just not the way you think it is! It's because this old dude wanted god to change it.
 
paper that poses the observations & analysis, from a lab at Yale https://science.sciencemag.org/content/352/6282/224

(to those unaware, Science and Nature are the two biggest scientific journals in all of academia. Generally difficult to get published there unless your research is especially noteworthy).


Here's the press release from the Guarding going through the details:



https://www.theguardian.com/environ...ate-change-analysis-liquid-ice-global-warming

yes, Science and Nature are big.

I don't think their track record for leading research matches their reputation. More of a tail wind sort of press. advancing science from the rear.

To be a courageous sort of challenger to the status quo, you practically have to publish the work yourself anymore. Well, you always needed to do that.

Historically, The British Royal Academy of Science publishes more breakthrough science.

In 1996 I hiked up on the mountain and found a tree near a spring that had been cut down. I spent an afternoon counting an measuring tree rings for the past 400 years. The past 100 years was the tightest set of rings, meaning less water or colder or both. My grandpa, at age 100 in 1964, made a big point about the weather changing. Used to be lush grasslands for grazing cattle in some places that are just sagebrush today. Summer monsoon rains dropped off.

The past four years, the summer monsoons are back, and grass is growing in those places again. Between 50000 and 10000 years ago, we had a very wet climate, comparatively, and some huge lakes throughout the Great Basin. Lake Bonneville broke out down the Snake River and dropped 500 feet in elevation, while a flood raged down the Snake.

Most of Earth History has been much higher CO2 atmosphere, and the world didn't end, and we didn't need to market carbon credits or taxes to make the world economically just under a few megatrillionaires who crafted the market to their advantage, or to the advantage of their plans.

In the past million years or so, we have had unprecedented low CO2 atmospheric content, and with it, ice ages. Summer ice melt in the Northern Hemisphere sets up a cycle of salt-mixing currents that create corresponding weather cycles. In the past 10000 years we have been on an interglacial warm, but each preceeding interglacial warm has reached higher temps than we have now, without any so-called anthropogenic effects.

Science and Nature have been caught up in a fashionable scientific trend. Just fifty years ago they were, correctly, invoking the specter of a coming ice age. win some lose some, that's what science is all about, and it usually takes less than a hundred years for any scientific result to become sorta dated, old school.

I've been following the climate research pretty closely lately, and I am impressed with the things we are learning. All this money and attention on weather and climate is actually pretty great.

I just think it will take about ten years for the reality of the new ice age to become vogue science, and I expect the politicians to get right out there in front of that wave with megaideas about how the world needs to respond to that.

warm oceans put water into play, and you would not believe how fast an ice sheet can build up once the snowfall in the Arctic catches up on that trend. Ice Ages all have begun with a short-lived spike in temps.
 
I am not saying I am a fanatic or anything but I am buying up every scrap of land I can find from Minnesotee up thru Canada Alaska and Santa clauses house. Bros I believe this **** is real and I am going to cash in big time. You know how cheap the land is in arctic tundra? Holy banshees! Pennies on the dollar bros. there is so much of it that all you global warming supporters and deniers should hit me up. What I care if we all get rich together? There is soooooooooooooooooooo much. I will be a billionaire too soon.
 
Is not rising sea levels related to climate change? That was my understanding. I don't think Utah has to be concerned about rising sea levels. But I live in the tiniest state in the union. It's located on the Atlantic, and it's getting smaller every year. The state, not the ocean. We have the most beautiful barrier beaches in New England. Our entire south facing Atlantic coast is a series of barrier beaches backed by salt water ponds. People drive for hours from interior Ct. and Ma. to enjoy our barrier beaches in the Summer. We are in the process of losing every single one of those barrier beaches due to the rising waters of the Atlantic. I have seen homes belonging to family members slide into the sea during storms along our south coast.

Don't know what is the most important problem facing humanity. But here in RI, climate change is eating up our real estate, and we're obviously not alone. I don't think liberal agendas are doing this. I think the Atlantic Ocean is doing this, and as a result of climate change. So the impact here certainly makes it a big problem having nothing whatsoever to do with people's political orientations....

https://www.neaq.org/conservation_and_research/climate_change/climate_change_in_new_england.php

https://www.ecori.org/climate-change/2014/11/7/southern-nes-coastal-landscape-is-shrinking
 
In the first photo, easy to understand why RI's barrier beaches are destined to be reclaimed by a rising Atlantic Ocean. You can see, in the aerial photo on the display board, how narrow that barrier beach is. In second photo, left to right are Atlantic, barrier beach, Trustom Pond. Fortunately, I'm too old to live to see these portions of our Atlantic coast reclaimed by the sea. But happen it will, and I believe as a result of climate change. Not the most devastating result of climate change, to be sure, but it will certainly affect our summer tourist industry in due course. I have read, and am not sure if true, that the disappearance of RI's barrier beaches will be among the earliest major physiographic changes to occur on the east coast of the US as a result of rising sea levels....

(Wish I knew how to make photos full size, instead of click on thumbnails?)

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You can likely also see why there are probably worse places to spend a Summer day. I took these photos during the annual Sept. Monarch butterfly migration. We used to see thousands. Now, very, very few....
 
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It is a projection based on what it is happening and what has already happened. It is not an assumption. Look where China was 30 years ago, and where they are now. Look where the West was 100 years ago, and where we are now.

I personally love the human species, and I don't mind seeing 10 or 15 billion of us populating the Earth. It would give us more reason to expand into space.
Didn't China also enact a child limit?

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In the first photo, easy to understand why RI's barrier beaches are destined to be reclaimed by a rising Atlantic Ocean. You can see, in the aerial photo on the display board, how narrow that barrier beach is. In second photo, left to right are Atlantic, barrier beach, Trustom Pond. Fortunately, I'm too old to live to see these portions of our Atlantic coast reclaimed by the sea. But happen it will, and I believe as a result of climate change. Not the most devastating result of climate change, to be sure, but it will certainly affect our summer tourist industry in due course. I have read, and am not sure if true, that the disappearance of RI's barrier beaches will be among the earliest major physiographic changes to occur on the east coast of the US as a result of rising sea levels....

(Wish I knew how to make photos full size, instead of click on thumbnails?)

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You can likely also see why there are probably worse places to spend a Summer day. I took these photos during the annual Sept. Monarch butterfly migration. We used to see thousands. Now, very, very few....

If they are images from the internet then unclick the box that says "Retrieve remote file and reference locally"

If they are images that you uploaded from your computer then you need to upload them to a third party site https://imgur.com and then copy the url of the image and post it that way.
 
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