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Saint Cy of JFC said:
You know Elizabeth Warren made a "spirited defense" of Joe Manchin, right?
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Her defense amounted to- I'll work with him on issues we have common ground on.

When we can work together on student loans, when we can get together on Social Security, expanding Social Security instead of contracting it; when we can get together on the issues that effect the economic well-being of hard working people in this country, then by golly I’m gonna do it

Look, I understand why leftists prefer Bernie, I really do. But y'all are undermining your arguments when you make her out to be some sort of blue dog centrist.
 
Zombie said:
Her defense amounted to- I'll work with him on issues we have common ground on.

When we can work together on student loans, when we can get together on Social Security, expanding Social Security instead of contracting it; when we can get together on the issues that effect the economic well-being of hard working people in this country, then by golly I’m gonna do it

Look, I understand why leftists prefer Bernie, I really do. But y'all are undermining your arguments when you make her out to be some sort of blue dog centrist.
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I don’t know who to effin trust anymore...

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/17/eli...d-lobbyist-money-when-running-for-senate.html

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...-behind-scenes-2020-race-intensifies-n1049701
 
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...ornia-survey-amid-polling-hot-streak-n1058471

Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., received more positive polling news on Wednesday as she surged to first place in the latest University of California, Berkeley, Institute of Governmental Studies poll of California, conducted for the Los Angeles Times.

The survey showed Warren with a commanding nine-point lead over former Vice President Joe Biden and a 10-point lead over Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt. Warren won the support of 29 percent of likely Democratic primary voters while Biden was the first choice of 20 percent and Sanders 19 percent, the newspaper reported. Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., won the support of 8 percent of likely Democratic primary voters in her home state.

"We appear to be at an inflection point in the Democratic presidential campaign," Mark DiCamillo, the director of the poll, said. "The changing voting preferences of California Democrats may be a harbinger of things to come elsewhere across the country."
 
Warren is going to be the first female President of the United States.

That makes me happy. I'm honestly glad it wasn't Hillary Clinton. Just like I'm glad the first African American President wasn't Jesse Jackson.

We're doing this **** right America!
 
The Thriller said:
Warren has wider appeal than sanders. Sanders only appeals to one demographic; young White males. His campaign has done nothing to expand his appeal to any other demographic. Sorry Bernie bros, but if you want the nomination you gotta appeal to women and minorities. Warren, Harris, and Biden do this, sanders doesn’t.
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This is garbage.
 
dalamon said:
Every Warren plan is a watered down Bernie plan that she rips off of, sometimes even in name (in the case of M4All). She isn’t 10% of the political leader he is, and I hope she doesn’t prevail.
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I think it’s fine she swings off his plans and his momentum, and I think Bernie would mostly agree.

My big concern is Trump hasn’t dunked on anyone more frequently or as successfully than on Warren, and she doesn’t have the pull in the rust belt which was the biggest factor in 2016 (the greatest popular and electoral vote disparity in American history). I think she is most vulnerable to losing to Trump in a presidential election. I hope I’m wrong and she’s high on my list of preferences.
 
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The Thriller said:
Warren has wider appeal than sanders. Sanders only appeals to one demographic; young White males. His campaign has done nothing to expand his appeal to any other demographic. Sorry Bernie bros, but if you want the nomination you gotta appeal to women and minorities. Warren, Harris, and Biden do this, sanders doesn’t.
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I don't think this is true. In 2016, I marched in Philly with about 10,000 other Bernie bros during the week of the DNC convention to protest the rigging of the primaries. His supporters came from all ages and every walk of life. It was really inspiring to be there and to engage in discussion -- they had table talk events during the week with speakers as well. It gave me hope and now I see it happening again, MSM suppressing and attacking Bernie. People need to realize they support Wall Street and the Democratic Party leadership will do everything they can to stop him, even if it means nominating another Progressive candidate who is not so far to the left as Bernie, who is anathema to them because they know he won't cave to the establishment like others, like Obama did.
 
Zombie said:
She's a cosponsor of his M4All bill, if I'm not mistaken. Kind of a weird critique to make that she's "ripping him off" somehow.

I think it's kind of funny to see the far left act like she's Hillary 2.0, while the moderates in the party act like she's no different from Sanders himself.

I'd be perfectly happy with either as the nominee, as their first terms will probably end up pretty much the same. It's not like either one is going to magically have 60 Democrats in the senate after all.

She's made fighting corruption and greed her calling card which is, along with climate change, the most pressing issue in the US currently imo.
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A big argument for Bernie from a tactical perspective would be high voter turnout (people showing up that traditionally don’t because they feel disenfranchised: the young, the poor, the non-white). The DNC loses the majority of competitive races because they don’t speak forcefully enough to issues of those people.

Sanders could make a big impact on the senate, house, and even state races. At least that would’ve happened in 2016, feels like he’s lost some oomph (he’s suddenly not the only major politician talking about policies that are mainstream in basically all of the rest of the Western powers).
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
I don't think this is true. In 2016, I marched in Philly with about 10,000 other Bernie bros during the week of the DNC convention to protest the rigging of the primaries. His supporters came from all ages and every walk of life. It was really inspiring to be there and to engage in discussion -- they had table talk events during the week with speakers as well. It gave me hope and now I see it happening again, MSM suppressing and attacking Bernie. People need to realize they support Wall Street and the Democratic Party leadership will do everything they can to stop him, even if it means nominating another Progressive candidate who is not so far to the left as Bernie, who is anathema to them because they know he won't cave to the establishment like others, like Obama did.
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Probably a bunch of people have brain damage from all the vaccines they've had...
 
Gameface said:
Probably a bunch of people have brain damage from all the vaccines they've had...
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Why do you say stupid **** like this? Did I ever say this? No, not even close. I raised legitimate concerns and backed it up with substantive sources of information. You need to open your mind and not be so dogmatic.
 
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