Gobert Hype Machine

[Stifle Tower]

I think if he were an offensive minded player that might be true, but since he's a defensive player I'm not nearly as worried about it.

Other players challenging him would be a dream come true, imho.

You can negate Rudy with penetration. Make him come out to stop the PG and then pass behind him. Germany did that several times with Schroder, who was much quicker than Parker and had no problem getting inside. Rudy was not all that effective in the 2nd half against Germany.

 

[karl malone]

Teams are going to be forced to beat the Jazz with Jumpers.

That's why Exum had such a big impact on our defense. With Gobert/Favors taking away the inside & Exum taking away the outside, teams had no choice but to settle for mid-range jumpers (instead of 3-pt jumpers) which is the most inefficient shot in basketball. This is the reason we put up historically good defensive numbers with Exum, Favors, & Gobert in the starting lineup. We will still be good defensively with Burke starting at PG, but now teams will have the option to (attempt to) beat us from the outside as well as the middle. We figured out a formula that worked, I hope we don't allow an unfortunate injury to force us to go away from it (even if it's only for a year). Imagine how good this team could be with a full year of a Dante Exum with even just an average offensive game (Avery Bradley), Hood, Hayward, Favors, & Gobert, along with just an average bench (which we now appear to have, if not better).

 

[karl malone]

Yep. This is not similar to the situation when an unknown point guard bursts onto the scene and plays in a quirky way that takes defenses a while to figure out. His success is also not the result of sky high confidence that is bound to eventually go away. If Gobert's blocks go down it will probably be because our opponents aren't taking the shots inside for fear that he will block them. His impact on the game could actually increase even if his block numbers went down.

Agree 100%.

 

[karl malone]

You can negate Rudy with penetration. Make him come out to stop the PG and then pass behind him. Germany did that several times with Schroder, who was much quicker than Parker.

You can never negate him completely due to his length/mobility (especially with Favors alongside him), but you can occasionally & this is exactly why having a (healthy) elite perimeter defender is so important to our defense. It allows Gobert to take away the inside & not have to go outside of his range to cover for other defenders. This is the reason I think some people are underestimating the negative impact that Burke is going to have on our defense if he is our starting PG. His mistakes will (somewhat) negate Gobert's ability to lockdown the paint.

 

[Stifle Tower]

You can never negate him completely due to his length/mobility (especially with Favors alongside him), but you can occasionally & this is exactly why having a (healthy) elite perimeter defender is so important to our defense. It allows Gobert to take away the inside & not have to go outside of his range to cover for other defenders. This is the reason I think some people are underestimating the negative impact that Burke is going to have on our defense if he is our starting PG. His mistakes will (somewhat) negate Gobert's ability to lockdown the paint.

We give up a lot on the defensive end by having Burke and Burks or Hood on the perimeter instead of Exum/Millsap. Of course, neither of those two could shoot straight, so maybe it will be an even trade-off. Completely agree with your other post about giving up the outside shots. Neither Trey nor Alec have shown the ability to run players off the 3. Even if Trey gets close, his size means almost all opposing PG's can just shoot over him without being bothered.

 

[franklin]

You won't seem the same increase from his fresman to sophomore year.

The league would have to institute anti-Rudy rules if that were to happen...

 

[franklin]

The league would have to institute anti-Rudy rules if that were to happen...

23 points on 76% shooting, 28 rebounds, 19,000 blocks per game, and an all time team record leading 4 points given up per quarter.

 

[♪alt13]

You can negate Rudy with penetration. Make him come out to stop the PG and then pass behind him. Germany did that several times with Schroder, who was much quicker than Parker and had no problem getting inside. Rudy was not all that effective in the 2nd half against Germany.

umm Favors

It's the combo of Gobert and Favors that makes Utah so daunting inside. Germany may be able to pull that off against France but that's not going to work so well against the Jazz.

 

[[size/HUGE] boobs [/size]]

I know I will be killed for stating this, but I'm a bit concerned that Gobert will come back to earth a bit this year as teams will now start focusing on him. You see this a lot and unless he is able to adapt to the way teams attack him we will see a slight decline in his impact. My concern is this.... how quickly will posters and fans turn on him if he doesn't show his dominant self over the first few months of the season as he adjusts to the new dynamics of teams?

Yes I have read the post https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...is_shared=true . Still have the concerns.

Someone in NBA or espn just ranked Gobert number one center of NBA I do not remember which. 7 spot ahead of Howard. How much more evidence you need?

 

[colton]

Was my real name. I had it changed in 6th grade. Still use it to ruffle feathers from time to time.

Also, I'm older than the other Ted Bundy. I'm an old fart. At least compared to most on this board.

If you are older than the other Ted Bundy, why would you have changed your name in sixth grade? That would have been well before he became infamous, no?

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

Was my real name. I had it changed in 6th grade. Still use it to ruffle feathers from time to time.

Also, I'm older than the other Ted Bundy. I'm an old fart. At least compared to most on this board.

Your older than the other Ted Bundy and you had your name changed in 6th grade (which obviously would have been before he ruined the name). So how come you changed it?

But the even stranger part is that now that the name has bad connotations you've decided to start using it again. And the reason you are using it is to ruffle feathers of people you don't even know? So weird. Why do you want to bring child rapist images to a sports message board? What's wrong with you? This story makes no sense at all.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

He may have married into the name.

Really? Did you take your wife's name when you married her?

 

[Getting Traded]

If you are older than the other Ted Bundy, why would you have changed your name in sixth grade? That would have been well before he became infamous, no?

LOL

 

[Miggs]

Even if his numbers aren't insane, I'll be stunned if he isn't the same paint presence he was last year. That doesn't just go away.

I still think with his height and what last year showed us, I have a hard time imaging him not getting at least 2.5 blocks and 12 boards a game.

I don't think 12 boards is a foregone conclusion.

 

[Stifle Tower]

I don't think 12 boards is a foregone conclusion.

Overall, he averaged nearly 10 rebounds in 26 mins last season. However, his rebounding averages were 15/per in March (average of 36 mins) and 12/per in April (33 mins). I think we can expect him to play in the range of 32-35 mins per game this year. So 12 isn't a foregone conclusion, but it should be pretty close.

 

[Miggs]

Overall, he averaged nearly 10 rebounds in 26 mins last season. However, his rebounding averages were 15/per in March (average of 36 mins) and 12/per in April (33 mins). I think we can expect him to play in the range of 32-35 mins per game this year. So 12 isn't a foregone conclusion, but it should be pretty close.

Fair enough my brotha from another motha.

 

[Stifle Tower]

Fair enough my brotha from another motha.

Never knew my dad was a player, that sly dog.

 

[VINYLONE]

I know I will be killed for stating this, but I'm a bit concerned that Gobert will come back to earth a bit this year as teams will now start focusing on him. You see this a lot and unless he is able to adapt to the way teams attack him we will see a slight decline in his impact. My concern is this.... how quickly will posters and fans turn on him if he doesn't show his dominant self over the first few months of the season as he adjusts to the new dynamics of teams?

Yes I have read the post https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...is_shared=true . Still have the concerns.

I think Go!bert has the p-word to be a generational player especially if he continues the stellar play he showed last season. That being said, you never know how players are going to react and adjust from season to season. Remember, there was a short window where Mr. Hibbert was considered the next great thing and we all know how that turned out. I am cautiously optimistic that Go!bert will not go the way of Hibbert.