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nateboz said:
The Jazz had the NBAs best record 2 years ago. This season they gave Mitchell more opportunities and the Jazz fell back hard.

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What is your point? Living in the past is stupid. This team was past its prime and needed to be blown up.
 
YoungJefe said:
Don has the 7th highest PPG average in NBA playoff history behind Jordan, West, Iverson, Durant, Luka, and LeBron.
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Iverson isn’t a bad comparison either, I’ve seen worse. Another undersized guard who put up amazing scoring stats but wasn’t nearly good enough to win it all. Do we think Spida is better than Iverson? If not, then building around him would be a mistake.
 
LoPo said:
You are absolutely right that Rudy got a lot more back than many of us were projecting.

But....

Minnesota is taking a gamble that everybody else is questioning. They are taking a massive gamble that Rudy covers up all their defensive holes created simply because KAT doesn't want to play the role of defensive big man. They are gonna try to win going big. We shall see.

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Kat wasn't lacking in effort though and he played his best defense when he was at the level and in rotation. Minny was grinding on defense and whenever they needed to drop KAT to protect the rim they suffered. KAT will probably be better as a secondary rim protector and may be freer to blitz and trap now.
 
LoPo said:
When you can't carry us to the round of 8, we're still just mediocre. That's the boat we were in built around Rudy Gobert.

We might never win a title, but we surely were going nowhere how we were.

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You keep saying that as if Mitchell wasn't a thing. We puposely added people Mitchell wanted or that supported Mitchell. We allowed Mitchell to have the ball to an astounding usage of 33. It's pretty obvious we were built around Mitchell. Hell Gobert's main role was screening to get Mitchell open and to cover for Mitchell's complete lack of anything resembling defense. So Mitchell didn't get us anywhere either. It's pretty obvious the tandem couldn't work together. Hell Mitchell straight up froze Gobert out on one end while expecting Gobert to cover for him letting his guy just waltz to the rim on the other. If anyone let us down, it's Mitchell. And now he could be the centerpiece? I guess we'll see what he can lead the team to without a multiple time DPOY hindering him and getting in his way, amirite?
 
I will sleep a few more hours and when I wake up I expect Conley gone and us getting 2 first rd picks because we got Danny ainge and his middle name is powerplay!
 
KAT is a better defender than Mitchell or Bogey.

Russell is a better defender than Mitchell. He's also in a contract year.

They have ZERO sizes issues. They will be more motivated than Utah has been defensively.

When Edwards tries on defense he actually makes a huge impact unlike Mitchell.

Off the bench they got one of the most elite team defenders in Kyle Anderson.

Jaden McDaniels is potentially high level on defense and will now be playing in position in terms of strength.

Not sure about Jaylen Nowell or Wendell Moore's defense, but Josh Minott is a defensive stud of a rookie. Easily in the top 10 of the class.
 
stitches said:
This sounds like posturing. If you are truly sold on Mitchell as a franchise player who is capable of leading you to the chip, you DO NOT trade that(unless he demands a trade I guess), pretty much no matter what package of picks you get. This is a philosophical thing... it's not a "I can do this or I can do that"... you should know exactly what you want to do right now, no ifs and buts... The very fact that there is this "but if we receive a trade we can't refuse" tells you that they are angling towards inviting such offers. To me they know what they want to do. It's not up in the air. They either are sold on Donovan as THE GUY, or they are posturing to increase leverage and potential value extracted from a trade. Now, that's not to say that they will trade him right away, maybe the package is not available right now, but they are setting the stage for it IMO. Whether now, or in 1 mont or at the trade deadline or next summer.
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Agree to disagree. The jazz could think that spida is a franchise player that could lead them to a championship but also understand that if the bucks offered us giannis that its something they would have to consider.


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