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Gobert--when can we extend him?

zbone said:
I don't want to spoil the circle jerk but Biedrins had posted same advanced stats for two years before getting his albatros contract as Gobert posting this season.
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You're welcome to your opinion, but if I had to guess, you haven't watched any games lately. Rudy is freak of nature at 7'2" with elite length and the athleticism of a guy 6'8". Oh yeah, he also never seems to get tired. Oh, oh, and he also has a mean streak and plays like he has a chip on his shoulder. I could go on like this. If he can stay healthy, he is the player that KOC dreamt about his entire career, ironically.
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The one thing I will say is that you always have to worry about injuries with guys this size, so we do need to qualify that all this talk is contingent upon Rudy staying healthy. I've heard some people suggest he needs to put on weight, but I disagree. He'll get pushed around a little, but the way Rudy plays, I don't want more weight on his frame. He needs to get stronger in his upper body, so he'll likely put on some weight, but NO NO to bulking up to go up against bigger players. Don't want that weight wearing down his knees/ankles/feet.
 
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If we get Kanter at about 10M per this off-season and then extend Gobert next at the max, where does that put us financially in the 16/17 season? I'm thinking not in a good spot knowing Favors will have to be re-upped at a much steeper price. Maybe Hood. Heck, maybe even Burke. And that's not even counting who we draft this year. I just don't see how we sign Kanter. I would say hey, maybe at around 8-9M so he's tradeable but I doubt he and his agent will accept that. So I'd rather not lose him for nothing which means trading him before the deadline may be the best option.

I just don't know. I'd like to hear others thoughts on this.
 
zbone said:
I don't want to spoil the circle jerk but Biedrins had posted same advanced stats for two years before getting his albatros contract as Gobert posting this season.
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Biedrins was never this good defensively, was always a liability on offense because his free throw shooting was atrocious, and had two testes that combined didn't come close to matching the size of one of Gobert's.

In other words, no. Gobawse is nasty!
 
zbone said:
I don't want to spoil the circle jerk but Biedrins had posted same advanced stats for two years before getting his albatros contract as Gobert posting this season.
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Biedrins never had the motor that Rudy has. He plays mean and intense. He wants to win, he wants to start. He's pissed he got drafted so low in such a bad draft. Rudy is already a special player, and considering where he was last year compared to this year, anything is possible.

We throw the max offer the very minute we are able to.
 
QuinSnydersHair said:
If we get Kanter at about 10M per this off-season and then extend Gobert next at the max, where does that put us financially in the 16/17 season? I'm thinking not in a good spot knowing Favors will have to be re-upped at a much steeper price. Maybe Hood. Heck, maybe even Burke. And that's not even counting who we draft this year. I just don't see how we sign Kanter. I would say hey, maybe at around 8-9M so he's tradeable but I doubt he and his agent will accept that. So I'd rather not lose him for nothing which means trading him before the deadline may be the best option.

I just don't know. I'd like to hear others thoughts on this.
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We don't know for sure, but the cap is supposed to jump 25 million in the next two years, with 5 next year and 20 after that. If that happens, the LT will be over 100 million. Utah can go over the cap to sign their own FAs, so we shouldn't have too much trouble anytime soon. We're at 59 million now, so if we have up to 100 million to work with in two years, we should be fine for a while. There are some things the owners could do like adjusting everybody's contract when they get the big bump, so nothing is in stone yet, but regardless Utah shouldn't be in any financial trouble anytime soon. There is an opt-out clause after the 16-17 season for the CBA, so everything could change then, but as of now, we should be fine.
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As for Kanter, I don't doubt Utah would move him for the right deal, but I don't think that deal is happening before the deadline. I believe trading him now would be selling low, and I also believe he's worth re-signing as a 3rd big who could also become a nice trade asset by the deadline next year. I think Utah wants to keep him, and although I don't know how high of an offer they'd match, I agree with others who have said he'll get a minimum of 10 million. As far as how much we can afford next year, that won't be the issue. Utah will likely be over the cap matching Kanter, so the deciding factor will be whether or not we believe it's a tradable contract. I don't think Utah blinks at 10 million, and I wouldn't be surprised if they might go higher.
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Finally, even though I think Utah is fine for a while financially, eventually we may get to the point where we can't afford everyone. If that happens, then we'll just have to hope our FO has the vision to move the right players at the right time. As for right now, I like the way things are starting to shape up.
 
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At the end of the day, what does Kanter really bring to the team that Favors can't? Favors post offense and midrange game have gotten way better. Kanter is still probably better in those areas, but not by much. He just doesn't bring enough to the table to pay him 10 million or more a year. Just sign cheap backups. Spending 5 million on a backup PF gives you another 5 million to spend on improving other areas of bigger need than your backup big man..
 
Also have dudes noticed Favors is taking advantage of his size mismatch on 4's now?

Destroyed David West in Indiana and was killing Taj last night.
 
Breaking news... league just changed the collective bargaining agreement just for Gobert. We will sign him to a 25 year contract and pay him whatever he deems necessary.... and we'll like it.
 
Cy said:
At the end of the day, what does Kanter really bring to the team that Favors can't? Favors post offense and midrange game have gotten way better. Kanter is still probably better in those areas, but not by much.
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Agreed
Kanter is not alot better than booker at anything either. (Though he is bigger I guess)
 
Cy said:
Also have dudes noticed Favors is taking advantage of his size mismatch on 4's now?

Destroyed David West in Indiana and was killing Taj last night.
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Lol when butler got switched onto favors in the post
 
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