Gobert's Offense
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Spacing by never playing with Favors and having more shooters on the floor at all times. Also the passing of Diaw.
Tom Pitt
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Completely agree with your point on Diaw's passing.
In re Faves not being on the floor and the floor being more spaced, I get it, but some of the stuff Gobert is doing out there, I've never seen him do. He seems improved. Just hope it's not a product of the preseason. If it continues into the season, gonna help us a ton.
I'm sorry to say it but I would think 80% of it is pre season. But I hope I'm wrong.
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More spacing, more scorers who can keep defenders on them, more confidence, more guys who can run pick-and-roll with him.
framer
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People are getting Rudy the ball in a position to score, Diaw and Exum especially. I never really felt like Burke, Neto or even Hayward knew where to put the ball to get the most out of Rudy. Throw that mother up there and good things are going to happen. Friggin' longest standing reach ever recorded in the NBA at 9'9", stop throwing the ball to his belt buckle or knees. The free throw shooting is pretty awesome too.
♪alt13
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All points made thus far are valid but I feel that I must add that Rudy has clearly worked on his offensive game. I've been waiting for that hook shot(unstoppable if he perfects it)since we drafted him. That push shot is nice too. A couple of years ago he'd be lucky to hit the backboard. He would bring the ball down low and forfeit his natural advantage. He still needs to work on how he comes off of screens and his dive to the basket in the high pick and roll. Luckily it seems like QS is going to keep putting him in that situation until it's second nature.
Lyles is really getting me excited. I never thought he had this much potential. He could become an All Star.
Lyles is really getting me excited. I never thought he had this much potential. He could become an All Star.
It might be that, but it also just seems like he has less people crowding him so he only has to worry about finishing over his man and not help defenders pressuring him.
Im really impressed by what Gobert has done in preseason, but Ill be more impressed if his improvements translate to playing with Favors.
*And Diaw's amazing passing which seem to be a decent chunk of his scoring opportunities*
He's thankful that Dante is back. Diaw and Exum are going to make Gobert a lot of money.
Hes put in the work at the FT line, finishing with authority, and is that some sort of floater i see...
Hes put in the work at the FT line, finishing with authority, and is that some sort of floater i see...
gomretat
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Its that and more. It also means you can bang and initiate contact on the offensive end and go to the line with confidence. If you are worried about shooting foul shots you play a lot more timid on the interior.
As others have said it's a combination of :
1/ Being put in better scoring situations by his teammates thanks to spacing and quality passing (Exum and Diaw).
2/ Having worked hard at it, which we can see on the FT shooting.
3/ But the biggest reason of all so far, sadly, is that it's preseason. Preseason means that defense gives you a wee bit more time, means that you are not stressed so you don't tighten up thinking "ok sometimes my ft shooting lets me down, I hope it doesn't happen today" and the biggest one of all, preseasoon means you are neither banged up nor tired. For big guys particularly, once they get structurally tired in the midst of the regular season grind (lack of sleep, lack of rest, little dings here and there), their coordination falls off a cliff. All the hard work and rep starts to fall by the wayside as the body goes back to its habits.
so colour me happy, but to me the key will be if this solider FT shooting (say if he could average 70% that's be great) is still solid pas february... He still should look better on O thanks to the better spacing and passing available, but he could very well see his %ges go down later on in the season...
1/ Being put in better scoring situations by his teammates thanks to spacing and quality passing (Exum and Diaw).
2/ Having worked hard at it, which we can see on the FT shooting.
3/ But the biggest reason of all so far, sadly, is that it's preseason. Preseason means that defense gives you a wee bit more time, means that you are not stressed so you don't tighten up thinking "ok sometimes my ft shooting lets me down, I hope it doesn't happen today" and the biggest one of all, preseasoon means you are neither banged up nor tired. For big guys particularly, once they get structurally tired in the midst of the regular season grind (lack of sleep, lack of rest, little dings here and there), their coordination falls off a cliff. All the hard work and rep starts to fall by the wayside as the body goes back to its habits.
so colour me happy, but to me the key will be if this solider FT shooting (say if he could average 70% that's be great) is still solid pas february... He still should look better on O thanks to the better spacing and passing available, but he could very well see his %ges go down later on in the season...
I think Gobert can be a decent free throw shooter for a big man. I like that he seems more focused this year.
framer
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He should be fresher this year as he can sit for longer periods as we actually have a bench now.
enchilada_style
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I'm sure there are other factors but I'm sure it's good for his game not having Neto or Trey b at point. Even Mack is ball dominant I wouldn't say he's a great passer either.
I don't think the fact that it's preseason needs to be clarified. It's common sense that the players don't play as hard in preseason, Gobert won't face starting front lines of Bass and Speights in the regular season, he won't average 20 & 10, and he won't shoot over 80% from the line. He will likely tire throughout the long NBA season as most players do, and will become a little more inconsistent with his newly formed skills as he becomes further removed from his meticulous summer reps, but he'll still end this season with a higher skill base than he ended with in the previous one. He will still be a relatively poor offensive player this season; however, it's painfully obvious that he has improved his offensive game. That's really all that needs to be said.