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Good News -- Another Year of AK47!

I know we're all obsessed with the jazz on here and what not, but the whole complaining about people picking on you on a forum, then tracking them down, calling them, and making actual contact trying to get them to stop web-insulting you is creepin me out a little. makes me think twice about this site, though i still love reading from it. its not often i comment i usually sit in the background and just read some topics to kill some time, but this one pulled me out of the cyber shadows. heh, creepy/
 
Deranged ramblings about stalking posters

Seek some help man, getting your panties in a twist over a message board post and calling someone's place of employment is seriously uncool.

Easily the most egregious harassment of a poster I have witnessed on this board in all the time I have been involved with it.
 
I'm glad the mods didn't pull this so that people could at least read my hypothesis and make their own judgment. I sense that a lot of people have a preconceived idea and are not open to the idea that a person could actually have a multiple personality disorder and be on this site. For those people, I just ask them to suspend disbelief temporarily and ponder the possibility.

I also don't think a lot of people understand why I did this, though some have acknowledged feeling the same way about what the board has become: a place where insults and personal attacks are the common method of criticism. I even recall my first disagreement with One Brow had to do with the definition of an Ad Hominem attack. One Brow, being an expert on logical arguments, sought a more precise definition than my description of it. So far as making logical arguments and twisting facts to agree with his POV, both One Brow and Aint are masters. I think a lot of people can recall this. But to get back to the original point, I contend that the board began its drift into a place where hostility and insults are common, when the master of this, Aint, joined the board. This is my purpose in revealing this, in the hope, that it will help the board become a more civil and respectful place again.
 
One other thing, I did and do admire One Brow for his intellect and I enjoyed the character of Aint / Hopper when he was / is not being hostile and argumentative. At one point, before the **** hit the fan, I even asked Aint in a private message more about his personal life, because as a writer, I knew Aint was a character but thought he was a marvelous creation and wanted to know more about the person who created him. But he refused to reveal this.
 
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One Brow, I knew you would be nitpicking.

Did you know the sun will appear in daytime? I nitpick false statements, certainly.

Also, what I said originally was accurate. Read the original statement by the reporter, he said O'Connor backed off his statement that AK "will be" with the Jazz, etc, etc.

If the reporter said that, he was wrong, because O'[Connor never makes such guarantees. Maybe the reporter was one of your students.
 
No, One Brow, but the reporter quoted him as saying that, and if he quoted him, then we can be reasonably assured that he said it. If the reporter continually misquotes someone, he will quickly lose his job. I feel comfortable believing the reporter did not misquote KOC, because once you become a reporter on an established newspaper like DesNews, you're not going to have developed the habit of misquoting people. Sure, it's possible he misquoted him, but unlikely. Just like it's possible you're not Aint / Hopper, but unlikely.

And incidentally, I was going to send you a private message, that instead of relegating the Aint / Hopper to the board and your website, you ought to write a novel with the Aint / Hopper character as the voice / narrator, a la Catcher in the Rye or On the Road. He would be a perfect voice to comment on the racial / cultural / gender revolution that is now occurring in not only American society but the whole world. You got the voice down pat, and a platform, now all you need is a plot.
 
One Brow, I knew you would be nitpicking. Not everything you say here is accurate. People can sue for libel if a publication makes a mistake whether it was intentional or not. Whether they are found guilty probably is dependent on malice or negligence. Also, what I said originally was accurate. Read the original statement by the reporter, he said O'Connor backed off his statement that AK "will be" with the Jazz, etc, etc. But I could care less what a bipolar, multiple personality like you say. I was going to forget what happened in the past, because I felt sorry for you and knew you have problems, but now you have ticked me off and I will reveal it to the rest of the board.

A few years ago or so, I determined through a comparison of posts that there was a strong likelihood that Aint and One Brow were one and the same. This happened as a result of my disagreement with Aint about some of the decisions Jerry makes. At the time, I was unhappy with Jerry because I probably put more blame on him for AK's failings than I should have. I still think Jerry deserves some blame but not nearly what I had thought at the time. Anyway, Aint's friendly disagreement turned vicious and he began making obscene, homophobic remarks about me and my posts (I had earlier cautioned him when he joined the board to tone down his constant sarcasm directed at gays. In fact, I had for a time a very good board relationship with Aint.)

Coincidentally, I noticed that Aint's attacks were being seconded by One Brow, who took similar positions and made similar arguments, though of course using different vernacular. I became suspicious and began to notice that they never were on the board simultaneously, though their posts followed each other closely. I then looked at their bios and noticed they were both from southern Illinois, which made their "Jerry love" more understandable.

Through some Google searching, along with some pieces of information from boardmembers about One Brow's website, I actually discovered One Brow's identity, even found out where he taught school. I also learned when I went to his website, which deals in Philosophy and philosophical discourse -- of course, One Brow is a Philosophy teacher -- that Aint Nuthin was posting blogs on philosophical matters on the site. As I continued to compare their posts on Jazzfanz, I found both used arguments of logical reasoning and both often talked about topics using a legal frame of reference. In fact, despite the difference in their vernacular, the substance of what they said (their views and opinions) was strikingly similar. I also discovered a thread on Jazz fanz something like 30 pages long that consisted simply of a dialogue between Aint, and you guessed it, One Brow. I don't even remember what it was about. But this shows you the extent of this guy's madness to hide these personas.

Then, out of the blue, I began to get even more vicious attacks, which followed up those by Aint and One Brow, by a poster named JF 2814. Because his views were nearly identical to One Brow and Aint, I began to suspect that the three posters were the same philosophy professor in southern Illinois. I was determined to get to the bottom of this, so one day I up and telephoned One Brow at his school office (he had no idea I was searching for him or that I had found him and I can't recall now if I reached him there or they gave me his home number). In any case, we had a conversation and I told him what I had learned and that I was going to continue to investigate him using whatever means I could unless he and his other personalities stopped attacking me on the site. We came to a pact and the war ended. However, he insisted that he wasn't Aint or the other poster.

I did tell Vinylone about this, and some of the other mods knew about it too, and I also asked Colton to investigate it, but he never came to any conclusions and he thought I was being paranoid. Yes, it sounds crazy but the coincidences were just too striking. It's been awhile since then and I have discarded all the incriminating information I had found. In fact, I don't even recall One Brow's real name and prefer not to know it or reveal it, out of respect for his privacy. I'm not out to harm him, because he seems like a decent human being, just a little troubled.

The reason I was ticked off by him and his ilk was because it was Aint and posters like him, who I feel spoiled this board and made it so contentious. I was a very congenial boardmember until the Illinois Mafia joined the board and when they came in with all their smart-alecky, clever one liners and ad hominem b.s., it messed with what I thought had been a great place to talk Jazz basketball.


Well, it still is a good place to talk Jazz basketball, if people would stick to that, and stop being jerks and calling people names and making obscene innuendos, and only being concerned with how creatively they can insult people, and making themselves the center of attention rather than what most of us go there for, Jazz talk. If people just stick to Jazz talk, then there is no better site anywhere.

Hey, I would rather forget about One Brow and Aint and all the rude, crude, inconsiderate, egomaniacal, immature posters that have infested this site. I only want to hear about Jazz basketball.

You have easily done the most egregious thing I've ever heard of on a message board I've been a part of. You are out of your mind and seriously, literally need help.
 
No, One Brow, but the reporter quoted him as saying that, and if he quoted him, then we can be reasonably assured that he said it.

While I would normally think that not being one of your former students would increase the chance of the reporter's quote being accurate, in this case, the odds of O'Connor making any sort of guarantee are basically non-existent. I can certainly see where he might have made a comment along the lines of "I expect he'll be with the team when the seasons starts", and some over-eager reporter interpreted that as a guarantee. It seems to be a common failing among journalism students and their instructors. I find myself reasonably assured that O'Connor never made a guarantee or anything resembling one.

Just like it's possible you're not Aint / Hopper, but unlikely.

There is no "likely", because it is meaningless to discuss the probabilitiy of a determined event.

And incidentally, I was going to send you a private message, that instead of relegating the Aint / Hopper to the board and your website, you ought to write a novel with the Aint / Hopper character as the voice / narrator, a la Catcher in the Rye or On the Road.

I could never maintain the affectation to the degree Hopper does, and would never try to steal it from him regardless.
 
The guy put the words in quotes. And he is not a beginner. Beginning reporters do not start out at the level of the DesNews. Why don't you ask the reporter instead of debating me. In fact, I'll call him up and put the issue to rest. But I trust that an experienced reporter with the DesNews would not put quotes around a comment unless it was what the respondent said, especially when using such an emphatic word like guarantee. Oh, it's possible I'm wrong. I won't guarantee I'm right in this case but I think it's most unlikely.

On another note, then if you're not Hopper, you're awfully close to this guy and know him much better than anyone here. I think we can all agree on that. What I would like to know is why he maintains such secrecy about his identity and why he uses this affected pose. Can you enlighten us on that?
 
The guy put the words in quotes.

Not one quoted word of O'Connor's says that O'Connor made a guarantee. O'Connor explicitly says he made no guarantee. I have not seen one speck of evidence O'Connor made a guarantee. Your contention that
O'Connor backed off saying he would "guarantee" AK would be with the Jazz at the start of the season.
has been unfounded and unsupported, and your attempts to retcon the statement have failed. Confirming by a reporter that he made accurate quotes in an article does not rescue your contention. A wise man would stop pursuing this discussion. You, however, will likely continue.

On another note, then if you're not Hopper, you're awfully close to this guy and know him much better than anyone here. I think we can all agree on that.

I'm not close to him and don't know him. I disagree him much more often than I agree with him. I find his anti-certainty position to be excessive, and effectively translating into anti-science and a willingness to treat woo and crackery on the same level as science. I get as annoyed with him as just about anyone else on the board.

What I would like to know is why he maintains such secrecy about his identity and why he uses this affected pose. Can you enlighten us on that?

No, I can't. I can speculate on reasons a person like me might do that, but I have no idea if Hopper is anything like I am.
 
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