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Mission Accomplished said:
That being said the players that I thought were garbage turned into .... Even though I was told that my observations were wrong. By the group thinking mass.

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That's fantastic, but you weren't alone in thinking Boozer needed to go. But then again, you also weren't selective as there were a number of people you labeled garbage.
 
I don't really care about Haywood anymore.

He's like an above average woman who left us and after a few months of sorrow and loss Kate Upton appears and marries the Jazz.

Yes, Donovan Mitchell is the Kate Upton of basketball. And it's time to watch the Jazz Harlem Shake it all the way to the Finals.
 
Let's assume there is a player in the world better than Joe Ingles (there isn't)... How would we even acquire said player... is this a space jam situation where basketball playing Monstars come to earth. Bold prediction.
 
Mission Accomplished said:
Not hate I just feel he is out of his natural place on the team. He would be the perfect 6th man. He isn't a starter IMHO. So, the over the top over valuing of him is hard to stomach.
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Dennis Lindsey, Andy Larsen, and Tony Jones have all said Ingles was a top 10 NBA small forward last year and he's been a top five 3 point shooter the last two seasons. How is someone that is one of the top 10 players at his position not a starter? You seem to be the only person on the planet that think's he is overvalued, even Sports Illustrated and ESPN have him ranked as a top 60 player. He is at least as valuable to the team as Rubio, maybe even a little more so, so why do you have such a problem with him but not with Rubio? Why don't you think Rubio should be coming off the bench?
 
Mission Accomplished said:
Hello gentlemen and ladies. Welcome to a new year. I hate to start out the year with pointing this out. But, all the Hayward hate is cute just a couple of years too late. Now I'm not here to gloat. Just to say " A prophet is not without honour, save in his own country, and in his own house." Many called me a troll or questioned my fan hood. The same has happened in the past with KOC and Boozer.

Now that you finally see what a superstar actually looks like in Mitchell. You must be saying to yourself "what will he predict next." Here it goes for the Jazz to be a contender .... Joe Ingles will have to come off the bench. Chew on that.

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You are such a ****ing loser.
 
Jingled said:
Dennis Lindsey, Andy Larsen, and Tony Jones have all said Ingles was a top 10 NBA small forward last year and he's been a top five 3 point shooter the last two seasons. How is someone that is one of the top 10 players at his position not a starter? You seem to be the only person on the planet that think's he is overvalued, even Sports Illustrated and ESPN have him ranked as a top 60 player. He is at least as valuable to the team as Rubio, maybe even a little more so, so why do you have such a problem with him but not with Rubio? Why don't you think Rubio should be coming off the bench?
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Let's pretend he isn't the GOAT (he is)... He's the perfect effing glue guy starter as he can pass, shoot, handle and defends. He could help the second unit run better, but hes the perfect 3rd or 4th option and is 1000% bought into the role of whatever the team needs.

I pray that this morons questioning of a basketball god doesn't bring condemnation upon us.
 
Mission Accomplished said:
Not hate I just feel he is out of his natural place on the team. He would be the perfect 6th man. He isn't a starter IMHO. So, the over the top over valuing of him is hard to stomach.

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Two years ago you might have been right. Even a year ago at the start of the season it might have been in question. But Ingles is a starting SF in the NBA for sure. Here's one article that rated him 11th out of 30 starting SFs.

https://hoopshabit.com/2018/08/29/nba-ranking-30-starting-small-forwards-2018-19/

11. Joe Ingles, Utah Jazz
One of the league’s perpetually underrated wings, Jinglin’ Joe Ingles finds no such disrespect on this list, nearly cracking the top 10 despite his mundane averages of 11.5 points, 4.8 assists and 4.2 rebounds per game.

Still, as any Utah Jazz fan will stand up and stop traffic to attest, Ingles’ impact extends beyond the basic stat sheet, and even beyond his en fuego 44 percent shooting from 3-point range. Ingles is not only a key part of Utah’s top-five defense, but he’s also an underrated secondary playmaker and ball-handler.

He’ll rarely post the kinds of numbers that fairly indicate his value to the Jazz, but as he quietly shoots blistering percentages from downtown, lends stellar wing defense across multiple positions and does all the little things, this on-the-rise team will continue to threaten for a top-three seed in the loaded Western Conference.


Just for fun, looks like they had him at #14 the year before:

14. Joe Ingles, Utah Jazz
We’re projecting quite a statistical leap for Joe Ingles to justify putting him this high on the list, but to be honest, his impact doesn’t always show up on the stat sheet. It’s no secret that his 7.1 points, 3.2 rebounds and 2.7 assists per game from last season didn’t exactly jump off the page.

However, with Gordon Hayward spurning the Utah Jazz for the Eastern Conference, someone will need to pick up the slack as a scorer, 3-point shooter, lockdown wing defender and secondary playmaker.

Rodney Hood will soak up most of the scoring, but Ingles nailed 44.1 percent of his 3-pointers last year and was an underrated playmaker as well. For his two-way impact on a potential playoff team, this 30-year-old needs to step up in a big way in 2017-18, but is fully capable of doing so.
 
Stoked said:
I love how he’s moving onto a new target despite looking terrible on the last target he had. Some people just don’t learn.
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You don't put a target on Joe... He is always the hunter.
 
Mission Accomplished said:
Not hate I just feel he is out of his natural place on the team. He would be the perfect 6th man. He isn't a starter IMHO. So, the over the top over valuing of him is hard to stomach.

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Ingles is basically the prototypical starter on this team. He has so many varied skills, is one of the best knock down shooters in the league, and a good defender. Everything about him screams glue-guy starter. Bringing him off the bench would be a JR Jazz level coaching decision. I'd rather start Donovan at PG and bring Rubio off the bench than move Ingles to the bench. The Jazz need another creator on offense, but the two obvious candidates for change would be Rubio or Favors. Both of those guys are not perfect fits for the modern game. Ingles is until he drops off as he ages.
 
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