Gordon Hayward trade.

[MTS]

A bit of a digression, but would it be possible to merge all the dumb trade ideas into one thread?

 

[Ron Mexico]

Lowry is in a position to choke in the playoffs. Unlike Hayward ever in his career.

Hayward has choked in the playoffs. Lowry this year had some help making the playoffs since he was the second best player on his team.

 

[akirac73]

Lowry is in a position to choke in the playoffs. Unlike Hayward ever in his career.

Actually you are wrong.

Hayward has played AND choked (massively) in the playoffs before:
2012 vs. the Spurs
4 games, 30.8 minutes/game, 18% FG, 8% 3P%, 2.8 rpg, 3.0 apg, 7.3 ppg.

True story.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

The Celtics don't have a secondary scoring option to Thomas and no legit center. This deal gets them both. They still have Bradley as an elite defender, and cap space to throw a big deal at a stretch 4 like Ryan Anderson was FA opens up.

The trade is an absolute joke.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Actually you are wrong.

Hayward has played AND choked (massively) in the playoffs before:
2012 vs. the Spurs
4 games, 30.8 minutes/game, 18% FG, 8% 3P%, 2.8 rpg, 3.0 apg, 7.3 ppg.

True story.

Choking implies you were expected to do something. He was a 2nd year player playing against a 1 seed.

 

[da ThRONe]

Kyle Lowry = 2 Time All-Star who is 30 years old and a 6' tall PG. Also a complete bust in the playoffs. His team has gotten far this year off of luck, Whiteside being injured, and a crappy Eastern Conference.

Jonas = Good starter. Nothing amazing, still young though.

So for those 2 players (1 of which is a 30 year old 6' tall PG who is probably going to be on the decline soon)they are going to get:

Amir Johnson: Very good bench big

Marcus Smart: One of the best defensive guards in the NBA and who is still very young

Kelly Olynyk: One of the few stretch 7'ers in the league who can hit the 3pt shot at a very high rate

Trey Lyles: A very talented young PF who showed a 3pt shot in his rookie year as well as a diverse set of offensive skills

3rd Overall Pick: Dragan Bender most likely who looks like a very good player IMO

12th Overall Pick: Not an insanely good draft in the late lottery ,but a lottery pick nonetheless

Nets Pick next Year: Are you ****ing kidding me? This is a gold mine pick in what is projected to be an insnae draft class. This is the biggest LMAO of the bunch and shows how terrible your proposal was.

Celtics 1st Rounder Next Year: Will be a pick in the 20's most likely. Still nothing to sneeze at as you gift them a cherry on top of the best banana split any Canadian has ever tasted.

The Celtics don't have a secondary scoring option to Thomas and no legit center. This deal gets them both. They still have Bradley as an elite defender, and cap space to throw a big deal at a stretch 4 like Ryan Anderson oncd FA opens up.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

The Celtics don't have a secondary scoring option to Thomas and no legit center. This deal gets them both. They still have Bradley as an elite defender, and cap space to throw a big deal at a stretch 4 like Ryan Anderson was FA opens up.

Lmao.

Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk

 

[da ThRONe]

Actually you are wrong.

Hayward has played AND choked (massively) in the playoffs before:
2012 vs. the Spurs
4 games, 30.8 minutes/game, 18% FG, 8% 3P%, 2.8 rpg, 3.0 apg, 7.3 ppg.

True story.

Ok I was wrong about Hayward playoff history. Man those are terrible numbers. In fairness he's a much better player now, but damn that's really bad.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Hayward and Lowry had pretty similar seasons. Offensively they were pretty much the same. Lowry shot a worse percentage from the field and took more shots and score 1-2 more points a game but also had more assists. Defensively I would give the edge to Hayward. Hayward also has more versatility over Lowry.

Biggest difference is that Lowry got to play robin to a better player on his team. DeRozan was the top player on that team, who scored the most, took the most shots and was the general focus of defenses. Hayward playing as our sidekick instead of our main player would be great for this team.

This was Lowrys best season at 29 years old, Hayward just had his best at 25. Hayward has a lot more upside and future over Lowry. Lowry is not an upgrade over Hayward at best it is a wash immediately but a downgrade in the future.

 

[da ThRONe]

Lmao.

Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk

Again not a counter point. Celtics need a consistent second scorer to help Thomas. And they lack a legit starting center. I fail to see where that statement is something to laugh at. Or is it the cap space thing that's so humorous?

 

[da ThRONe]

Hayward and Lowry had pretty similar seasons. Offensively they were pretty much the same. Lowry shot a worse percentage from the field and took more shots and score 1-2 more points a game but also had more assists. Defensively I would give the edge to Hayward. Hayward also has more versatility over Lowry.

Biggest difference is that Lowry got to play robin to a better player on his team. DeRozan was the top player on that team, who scored the most, took the most shots and was the general focus of defenses. Hayward playing as our sidekick instead of our main player would be great for this team.

This was Lowrys best season at 29 years old, Hayward just had his best at 25. Hayward has a lot more upside and future over Lowry. Lowry is not an upgrade over Hayward at best it is a wash immediately but a downgrade in the future.

Fair assessment. I would say even if Lowry/Hayward is a wash Crowder is better than /Exum/Neto so that puts Utah ahead.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Again not a counter point. Celtics need a consistent second scorer to help Thomas. And they lack a legit starting center. I fail to see where that statement is something to laugh at. Or is it the cap space thing that's so humorous?

You are a dumbass. I counterpointed already and it's obvious how bad it is.