da ThRONe
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With Lowry and Crowder we aren't a better team...
The upgrade at PG between Lowry and Mack/Exum/Neto is far more than the downgrade of Hayward to Crowder.
With Lowry and Crowder we aren't a better team...
The idea of trading Hayward has been floating around the board centered around the Celtics and their number 3 pick. What if the deal that's there to be made involves not only the Celtics, but also the Raptors? What about something like this
Jazz trade- G. Hayward, T. Lyles, and 12th pick
Jazz get- K. Lowry, and J. Crowder
Raptors trade- K. Lowry and J. Valanciunas
Raptors get- A. Johnson, M. Smart, K. Olynyk, T. Lyles, 3rd pick, 12th pick, Nets 1st rd 2017 pick, Celtics 1st rd pick 2017.
Celtics trade- A. Johnson, J. Crowder, 3rd pick, 2017 Nets 1st rd., and 2017 Celtics 1st rd
Celtics get- G. Hayward and J. Valancinas
https://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=gu4hqrb
Jazz- gets the best player in the trade and at a position of need and a good cheap replace for Hayward. Not sure if Lowry gives the Jazz the "star power" need to advance this roster deep into the playoffs but he's better than Hayward and is a two time All-star so it's a start.
Raptors- GM Ujiri is likely to watch his Raptors get swept in the ECF's. If the light bulb goes off in his head that this teams window is close as long as the Cavs are open. Hitting the reset button now makes prefect sense with Derozan likely gone. He built up the good will to usher in a rebuild and he get's 3 lottery picks this year alone to help foster that reset.
Celtics- Selling off 2 of the big 3 at just the right time puts the C's in position to be buyers this off season. So they cash in those assets to bring in Hayward, and Valancinas to pair with Thomas. These parts should puts this team in position to challenge the Cavs for the East.
Thank god no one on this board is our GM....
Lowry has not been very good in the playoffs.
If you trade for Lowry your giving up on Dante and Lowry doesn't fit the timetable. Also, Lowry has not been very good in the playoffs... Sure you want him? You must not think much of Hayward if you do this trade and didn't Trey Lyles impress you enough in his rookie season that you are excited about what he could grow into.. He's very talented offensively at his size.
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I hate this trade idea.
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