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Gordon Hayward: Underdeveloped = Underrated

franklin said:
The Thunder cannot get out of the West with the second best and arguably a top 5 player. Name me one championship team with a 3rd option who compares to Hayward and I'll listen. I cannot think of any.
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Agreed. And yet those third options make less than Hayward may reportedly get. Crazy talk.
 
franklin said:
The Thunder cannot get out of the West with the second best and arguably a top 5 player. Name me one championship team with a 3rd option who compares to Hayward and I'll listen. I cannot think of any.
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2004 Pistons

I never was impressed by that roster
 
Edgewriter said:
And how many teams actually have a Wade or Bosh level player as the #3 besides the Heat? Maybe the Spurs with Manu or the Thunder?
Peoples comps with Hayward are way off.
https://saltcityhoops.com/why-our-gordon-hayward-comps-are-all-wrong/
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Wow that was an extremely homerish. He makes all these claims but fails to take into account that Hayward had more touches. He claims he creates more for teammates per game but also fails to mention that Hayward had the ball more per game than these others. He claims they are all just system players and that is why they look comparable to Hayward but fails to mention that they get less touches because they play with better players. I'm far from a Hayward hater but that article should have been written by Hayward's agent.
 
Could we match Hayward at say 13M per and sign (let's say the Rockets don't match) Parsons at 14M per, and see how things work themselves out on the wing over the course of the year?

Burke (30) - Exum (18)
Hayward (12) - Burks (30) - Exum (6)
Parsons (30) - Hayward (18)

I would think Parsons can play some minutes at the 4 too, thus opening up some more time for some of these guys, notably Exum. Just a thought.
 
All I know is that only three players in the league averaged these stats 16.2pts, 5.1rb, 5.2as. LeBron James, Kevin Durant and Gordon Hayward. Then if you add in 1.4st, 0.5blks there's only one guy in the NBA they did that Gordon Hayward. I don't care what any of you say if that was easy to do 35 or 40 guys would be doing it every year. You don't know what you're talking about! If he goes back to his career average percentages he'll score over 20 a game. In a better system with better coaching you can expect everything else to go up as well. I don't even begin to see the selfish player you're talking about but I do agree with you that he plays soft when people poke him in the ear and he pouts way too much. If he can find his balls and man up and play with a little more excitement dude is legit.
 
heyhey said:
2004 Pistons

I never was impressed by that roster
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They got away by playing a dysfunctional lakers team.

Payton sucked
Fox was old
Malone was playing with a bad knee
Shaq was showing wear and tear
Kobe was traveling between Denver and LA

If that pistons team plays a healthy Malone and non-on trial Mamba? They lose.

If they play the defending champ spurs that year? They're waxed and it isn't even close.
 
QuinSnydersHair said:
Could we match Hayward at say 13M per and sign (let's say the Rockets don't match) Parsons at 14M per, and see how things work themselves out on the wing over the course of the year?

Burke (30) - Exum (18)
Hayward (12) - Burks (30) - Exum (6)
Parsons (30) - Hayward (18)

I would think Parsons can play some minutes at the 4 too, thus opening up some more time for some of these guys, notably Exum. Just a thought.
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I'm gonna respond to my own post because this squad has me excited.

Burke (30) - Exum (18)
Hayward (8) - Burks (30) - Exum (10)
Parsons (20) - Hayward (22) - Hood (6)
Favors (30) - Parsons (10) - Kanter (8)
Kanter (19) - Gobert (17) - Tomic (12)
 
QuinSnydersHair said:
Could we match Hayward at say 13M per and sign (let's say the Rockets don't match) Parsons at 14M per, and see how things work themselves out on the wing over the course of the year?

Burke (30) - Exum (18)
Hayward (12) - Burks (30) - Exum (6)
Parsons (30) - Hayward (18)

I would think Parsons can play some minutes at the 4 too, thus opening up some more time for some of these guys, notably Exum. Just a thought.
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You are leaving out Hood. It would be an extremely crowded back court. But I'm not sure that is a bad thing.
 
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