I think pick #5 will come down to Vonleh and Exum.
Gordon VS. Vonleh
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Sexual Favors
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If Exum is there, I'd take him for sure.
5th pick big board (w/obvious assumptions of top 3 gone):
Exum
Gordon
Smart
Vonleh will be a nice player, but I'm not sure he could make this team any better. Skills overlap with current bigs, and he is raw.
Vonleh is going to be awesome. Imagine him stretching the floor for Favors.
Also, let's look at Vonleh's college teammates. They sucked. 17-15 record. The PG averaged less than 4 assists per game. Second on the team is Sheeley who averaged 1.8 assists. They weren't getting the ball to Vonleh.
And I swear to God some of you don't follow basketball. To compare Vonleh to Favors is so moronic. Favors can't stretch the floor and Vonleh is a much better ball handler.
Vonleh is going to be similar to Kevin Love - though Vonleh will be a better defender.
Gordon is a good defender and will run the floor like a fiend - he reminds me of Noah. I would rather have him than Randle but having PF who plays defense and can stretch the floor is too good to pass up.
Also, let's look at Vonleh's college teammates. They sucked. 17-15 record. The PG averaged less than 4 assists per game. Second on the team is Sheeley who averaged 1.8 assists. They weren't getting the ball to Vonleh.
And I swear to God some of you don't follow basketball. To compare Vonleh to Favors is so moronic. Favors can't stretch the floor and Vonleh is a much better ball handler.
Vonleh is going to be similar to Kevin Love - though Vonleh will be a better defender.
Gordon is a good defender and will run the floor like a fiend - he reminds me of Noah. I would rather have him than Randle but having PF who plays defense and can stretch the floor is too good to pass up.
MVP
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None of these undersized PF's with long wingspans who were predicted to be defensive force ( Diogu, Udoh, Byombo, etc) panned out except of B.Wallace. What are the chance that Wonleh will be the one? 7'4 wingspan or not he will not be able to defend true 7 footers, same as Favors is struggling to do it. If we go big we need Embiid, since it is not possible we should get Gordon, at least we will have elite defender at wing spot.
Jazz4ever
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Guarding SFs is certainly one of Gordon's selling points but you need more. Chris Singleton was an athletic defensive monster in college with PF size that projected to guard SFs. Well ya he can guard them in the NBA, but is a borderline bust that gets about 10 minutes a game because he just isn't an offensive threat.
per DX:
While Florida State combo-forward Chris Singleton will likely not receive any votes for ACC Player of the Year this season, there are few players in the country with his physical tools and NBA potential. Since arriving at Florida State, Singleton has been an equally frustrating and tantalizing player, capable of dominating one game and struggling badly the next. His boom or bust style complicates his NBA draft stock and is definitely worth watching as this season progresses. That said, there is no denying Singleton's potential.
At 6'8 with a NBA-ready frame, Singleton has outstanding size for an NBA small forward and, while he is a bit undersized for a power forward, he has great length to compensate. As we have mentioned before, his athleticism is outstanding, boasting NBA-caliber quickness, explosiveness, and fluidity. It is needless to say that Singleton looks the part, which makes his struggles at the collegiate level all the more frustrating.
Defensively, Singleton remains one of the most versatile players in all of college basketball. His athleticism, length and strength allow him to make a huge impact all over the floor, and you'll regularly see him switch between guards and big men over the course of a single game and at times a single possession.
Fortunately there is a lot more. Gordon does have nice aggressive offensive game. Leads to a lot of layups and dunks.
Fishsticks
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And your opinion of him is super inflated as always which is never a surprise.
MVP
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Dude Singleton has nothing on Gordon. Gordon has great IQ, passing ability and ball handling skills. Singleton had nothing like that.
Sexual Favors
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A couple huge differences between chris sileton and aaron gordon:
Aaron is the far better athlete, yes, it's true.
Singleton was a 37 Fg% and 31 3pt fg% in college, A. Gordon is a 49.5 FG%! and 35.6 3pt fg%, with a good looking form.
Singleton could not rebound (grabbed 3.2 pergame, compared to Aaron's 8.0!!)
Singleton couldn't pass, only averaging 0.6 AST over his three college seasons, compared to aaron's 2.0, which doesn't fully describe how good he was when considering how littl the ball was in his hands to make plays for others, due to the fact that he was a freshman on an already elite NCAA team.
A. Gordon averaged almost twice as many blocks and steals as Singleton.
Singleton's ceiling was Trevor Ariza, and his worst case projection was Dominic Mcguire. Aaron Gordon's comps have always been worst case Shawn Marion, middle case A. Kirilenko, and best case Blake Griffin.
Singleton was 24, which by NBA terms mean he was largely plateaued development wise. Aaron Gordon is 18, and one the youngest players in the entire draft!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Huge difference.
You guys who are scared of Gordon haven't come up with a single honest or accurate comparison to him yet.
So far, I've concretely refuted:
Corey Brewer
MKG
The Manimal
Chris Singleton
Please be somewhat accurate next time.
Sexual Favors
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And lickily for me, my perspective is shared by a lot of NBA scouts.
You just made a bad comp, don't get salty.
Thee Jazz Fan
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