Got into a pretty heated debate with my wife last night about race.

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Cant wait til Beer's wife sleeps with a black guy to satiate her white guilt.

 

[NAOS]

Cant wait til Beer's wife sleeps with a black guy to satiate her white guilt.

“Comfortable conversations” and “real data”.... as if either of these things are universal/culture-free. As if white folks haven’t had their way on both of these issues, continuously.

 

[One Brow]

I'm not saying they don't have support or their family doesn't care about them. I'm saying it is so so so much harder for a single parent to have the time and energy to dedicate to helping a child with schoolwork than a more traditional family. If you are working 2 jobs, or working nights, its going to be extremely difficult for a single parent to dedicate significant time and energy into homework, testing, outside of class learning, etc ....

I'm not sure why two married parents have more time for this than, say, a mother and a grandmother. Please explain that to me in more detail.

And I'm sure the neighborhood cares about each other, but once again, a neighbor isn't going to take an active interest in a neighbors kids schoolwork 99% of the time.

My personal observations the black community says otherwise, at least for the kids doing well in school.

As far as your 2nd point, sure, maybe, possibly. Would like to see anything substantial back that up though.

Project Implicit

implicit.harvard.edu

And as far as your last paragraph, yes I am aware of that happening. I do not believe it was a constant though. Maybe not an outlier either but not a majority occurence either.

Even if it only occurred to, say, 5% of black businesses, don't you think just knowing it could happen would act as a damper on the desire to expand a moderately successful business?

 

[latin jazz]

Lmao at black schools being subpar. Maybe in the South the funding is not there but in NJ and probably much more of the NE that’s laughable. The schools that are “subpar” are subpar because of the parents. That’s it. I’d say the students but that’s not fair to them.

And you’re basing this off of?

Oh my. As a teacher you should know. Schools rely on taxes, in particular property taxes. Due to spatial inequality in US, its easy to the see the link between where you live/school district quality.

I lived in Cambridge, MA and had the opportunity to participate in some projects in disadvantaged neighboorhods in the Boston area. Schools were a big big big problem: look at US Census Data (or other reliable surveys) and you will clealy notice a trend in black neighboorhods : lower school funding; lower school enrollment; lower educational attainment; higher school dropouts; higher teenager incarceration rates; higher teenage pregnancy rates, etc. All of these issues are correlated.

 

[NAOS]

Oh my. As a teacher you should know. Schools rely on taxes, in particular property taxes. Due to spatial inequality in US, its easy to the see the link between where you live/school district quality.

I lived in Cambridge, MA and had the opportunity to participate in some projects in disadvantaged neighboorhods. Schools were a big big big problem: look at US Census Data (or other reliable surveys) and you will clealy notice a trend in black neighboorhods : lower school funding; lower school enrollment; lower educational attainment; higher school dropouts; higher teenager incarceration rates; higher teenage pregnancy rates, etc. All of these issues are correlated.

I lived in Roxbury for a few months back in 2002. It sounds like you probably visited.

 

[latin jazz]

I lived in Roxbury for a few months back in 2002. It sounds like you probably visited.

I did. We were looking at some urban interventions around the Malcolm X, Washington St area. Went to several planning meetings with the community and oh lord, wounds were very open.

The contrast between Roxbury and South End were striking, just a couple of blocks away.

 

[Miggs]

Oh my. As a teacher you should know. Schools rely on taxes, in particular property taxes. Due to spatial inequality in US, its easy to the see the link between where you live/school district quality.

I lived in Cambridge, MA and had the opportunity to participate in some projects in disadvantaged neighboorhods in the Boston area. Schools were a big big big problem: look at US Census Data (or other reliable surveys) and you will clealy notice a trend in black neighboorhods : lower school funding; lower school enrollment; lower educational attainment; higher school dropouts; higher teenager incarceration rates; higher teenage pregnancy rates, etc. All of these issues are correlated.

Obviously I know it. Despite teaching in a poor district the property taxes are high. Absurdly so. Like $10,000 on a $400,000 home. And we get a **** ton of funding from the state. Money has nothing to do with it. Should we be remote, every single student grades K-12 will have a laptop. The district will shell out money should Zoom or Screencastify not extend their free trials.

Now so far as poverty level goes, yes. But that has nothing to do with the quality of education. Kids flourish in all areas. We have some brilliant kids. But most of them have an infrastructure in place at home to succeed. Hence my original statement of it all come back to the parents.

 

[Miggs]

I just saw a graph with state spending per pupil. NJ is 4th in the nation. Utah is dead last. Maybe raise those property taxes which are ridiculously low.

 

[Gameface]

I just saw a graph with state spending per pupil. NJ is 4th in the nation. Utah is dead last. Maybe raise those property taxes which are ridiculously low.

But what about mah freedumbs?

 

[Comrade in Seattle]

I'm not sure why two married parents have more time for this than, say, a mother and a grandmother. Please explain that to me in more detail.



My personal observations the black community says otherwise, at least for the kids doing well in school.

Project Implicit

implicit.harvard.edu

Even if it only occurred to, say, 5% of black businesses, don't you think just knowing it could happen would act as a damper on the desire to expand a moderately successful business?

You know, if these Nazis dont want to comply with our demands I am happy to help you beat them down. We need another meeting to discuss our beatings.

 

[latin jazz]

Obviously I know it. Despite teaching in a poor district the property taxes are high. Absurdly so. Like $10,000 on a $400,000 home. And we get a **** ton of funding from the state. Money has nothing to do with it. Should we be remote, every single student grades K-12 will have a laptop. The district will shell out money should Zoom or Screencastify not extend their free trials.

Now so far as poverty level goes, yes. But that has nothing to do with the quality of education. Kids flourish in all areas. We have some brilliant kids. But most of them have an infrastructure in place at home to succeed. Hence my original statement of it all come back to the parents.

Even with transfers, there is a big disparity in funding:

School districts where the majority of students enrolled are students of color receive $23 billion less in education funding than predominantly white school districts, despite serving the same number of students – a dramatic discrepancy that underscores the depth of K-12 funding inequities in the U.S ​

Source:​

https://www.usnews.com/news/educati...re-k-12-funding-than-students-of-color-report​

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/report-finds-23-billion-racial-funding-gap-for-schools/2019/02/25/d562b704-3915-11e9-a06c-3ec8ed509d15_story.html

Not arguing kids can't succeed in tough environments. But its not only about the parents (which I agree are important), but infrastructure, funding, spatial inequality, income disparities, etc

 

[latin jazz]

I lived in Roxbury for a few months back in 2002. It sounds like you probably visited.

May I ask. What were you doing in Roxbury at the time? Were you working?