Grade this Fantasy U.S. Presidents Draft
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Well we all know popularity is the best sign of objective quality.
That's why Justin Bieber is the best musician in the United States.
Darkwing Duck
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Because James Garfield and William McKinley are thought of as great presidents...
Even with that, I would have voted for 5. Unless you're Native American, his presidency wasn't all that much to write home about.
did anyone add up the denominations of money they're on? seems to me that would be a most sensible way to judge.
The Blue Elephant
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All we have is the perception of presidents which are most likely seriously construed from reality. For example someone like Abraham Lincoln many probably think is a great president who loves black people. Think again.
“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.” -Abraham Lincoln (Fourth Debate with Stephen A. Douglas at Charleston, Illinois, September 18, 1858)
There are many many more just google.
To me presidency is like WWE wrestling. One year someone holds the belt, next year someone else does.
“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.” -Abraham Lincoln (Fourth Debate with Stephen A. Douglas at Charleston, Illinois, September 18, 1858)
There are many many more just google.
To me presidency is like WWE wrestling. One year someone holds the belt, next year someone else does.
Sneakers
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By scholars fool
I'm proving your point that they steered the ship through the most treacherous waters in this nation's (and world's) history?
We can't judge these people based on our current standards of morality and social norms. They didn't live in a world that operated according to that set of standards, so they were by and large a product of their times.
I disagree on a couple points.
First, anyone who orders genocide is wrong. I don't care about the mores of the time. That's about being a human being.
Second, Andrew Jackson was a monster even for his era.
So you're not a big fan then?
I honestly don't know a lot about him other than he was a general before he was pres.
I'm all for condemning his actions, but he was "at war" with the Native Americans. I don't know for sure but I don't think he just randomly killed masses of people without some sort of mandate and without some sort of sense that he was fighting for whatever his version of good was.
I honestly don't know a lot about him other than he was a general before he was pres.
I'm all for condemning his actions, but he was "at war" with the Native Americans. I don't know for sure but I don't think he just randomly killed masses of people without some sort of mandate and without some sort of sense that he was fighting for whatever his version of good was.