Graphic video released of police killing another black man in cold blood

[LogGrad98]

That part where it looked to you like he dived out of the way? That's immediately after the police had fired two shots, to my understanding at least one of which struck him. Did you notice he was not facing in the direction the police came from?

What I posted was my first response from just watching the video. It could have been shots fired or they could have yelled at him. No soundon thesurveillance video.

Why the hell did he come back trying to pick up the gun?

 

[Yell42]

RIP John Crawford. Around the same time the Ferguson PIGS murdered Mike Brown, more dumb white pig cops in Ohio shot and killed John Crawford in Walmart. Crawford had been holding a pellet gun but it was on the ground (barrel end on the floor) and he was talking on the phone when the pigs gunned him down, killing him. Not only is it completely legal to conceal and carry in Ohio, Crawford broke no laws and the dumb, trigger happy white PIGS killed him within 1.6 seconds of seeing him.

LINK to video.

Curious to hear the racist pig defenders LogGrad, EJ Wells and Joe Bagadonuts try and spin this one in favor of the pigs. There is a real problem in this country with pig cops slaughtering people and I can't wait to see them lose their jobs as well as their lives when they are brought to justice in one form or another!

Dont worry I am sure those super racism fighters jesse jackson and al sharpton are cooling everything down

oh wait, they only fan the flames of hatred for their own agenda

Nevermind

 

[Gameface]

Dont worry I am sure those super racism fighters jesse jackson and al sharpton are cooling everything down

oh wait, they only fan the flames of hatred for their own agenda

Nevermind

I'd be pretty pumped if you made some overtly racist comments (again) and got banned outright.

 

[LogGrad98]

1) Depends on which "other" you mean.
2) I'm worried about the direction, as well. We have less crime than ever, while police are becoming more violent.

How do you define and quantify "more violent"? Is it possible they are no different than ever yet due to our connected society we just know about more of it than before? I would like to see some statistics showing police violence today vs the 60's, let's say.


This makes me think of child abduction. If you look at the statistics child abduction has not changed at all in like 40 years. Nearly exactly the same stats. But if you ask people they will tell you that it is a terrible problem that is getting worse, even to the point of people stepping in and calling CPS and/or trying to parent for you if you let your kid go somewhere unattended. So the fact that we see every single child abduction in real time has made people think it is worse when really it is exactly the same as it was when you or I were children. Are police suffering from the same bias?

 

[Gameface]

If we are more aware about police brutality today than in the 60s and are more sensitive to it I say good for us. Let's get rid of that ****, pronto.

 

[One Brow]

1.There are other countries with lower crimes rates, but the US is still the safest place to live in terms of inside threats combined with outside threats.

By that standard, pretty much any Nordic country, sans Finland, is safer, as well as much of Western Europe.

If racism is such a huge problem and all white people are scum, then I ask again, why aren't people fleeing from the US?

Some people love a country to much they would rather try to fix it than flee it.

It's because everyone knows deep down that it's a bunch of over exaggerated BS.

In your experience, as a white man, it's over-exaggerated. It's amazing how easily white men think that their experience is the only relevant experience.

It just goes unappreciated.

Did you want some reward for not being a jerk or for treating people equally? What do you think you deserve for that?

Which ironically is just racism too, because it lumps all white people together as being racist.

As long as you are stuck in a mindset where racism is a problem of some people, and not a problem of culture, you are part of the problem.

2. Maybe there is a correlation between less crime and police becoming more violent. Sometimes crooks could use a good old fashioned *** woopen to set them straight.

Your true colors come shining through.

 

[One Brow]

So, when they initially shot at him he was waving a gun around?

In the sense that a gun pointed at the ground is being "waved around", sure.

Sorry, I haven't watched the video nor read the story (nor will I), but I just want to know the point you are trying to make here.

In that case, I was making this point: on the video, you can't tell that the man fell behind the shelves because he was shot (there is no audio), so while without that knowledge it might be reasonable to think he was trying to avid the police, with that knowledge it's obvious he had no such motive.

 

[One Brow]

What I posted was my first response from just watching the video. It could have been shots fired or they could have yelled at him. No soundon thesurveillance video.

Yep. That's why I offered the additional information.

Why the hell did he come back trying to pick up the gun?

I don't think he did. To my eyes, he was trying to run and stumbled.

 

[One Brow]

Dont worry I am sure those super racism fighters jesse jackson and al sharpton are cooling everything down

oh wait, they only fan the flames of hatred for their own agenda

Thank you for your display of ignorance; we all understand that better now.

 

[One Brow]

How do you define and quantify "more violent"? Is it possible they are no different than ever yet due to our connected society we just know about more of it than before? I would like to see some statistics showing police violence today vs the 60's, let's say.

You have a good point. Of course, the early 60s were before the MIranda case and other cases that codified so many rights for citizens, so I expect violence was probably even greater then. Perhaps a comparison with the 1980s. Then again, we'd have to use police reports to conduct such a study. I'll look around a little before AI say that again.

This makes me think of child abduction. If you look at the statistics child abduction has not changed at all in like 40 years. Nearly exactly the same stats. But if you ask people they will tell you that it is a terrible problem that is getting worse, even to the point of people stepping in and calling CPS and/or trying to parent for you if you let your kid go somewhere unattended. So the fact that we see every single child abduction in real time has made people think it is worse when really it is exactly the same as it was when you or I were children. Are police suffering from the same bias?

Possibly. Even here, though, one difference is that child abductors are prosecuted, police are more likely to be protected.

 

[Getting Traded]

Guys, I have the lowdown on the shooting I live in Ohio, not far from where it took place. So, I did a little research and learned some interesting facts you won't find in the newspapers. I also did an analysis of the video after watching the shooting part numerous times. And what I have to tell you, you're not going to like.

First of all, if you listen closely -- depending on which video you saw -- you can hear the cops give a warning. However, the shooting occurred about a second or even less after they shouted put it down, or so it sounds like that's what they said (approximately 8:26:55 / 8:26:56 for the warning / shot times). Crawford barely had time to turn his head to see them. And he runs off after he is hit but then turns back towards the cops and falls and goes into shock.

Second, the prosecutor picked an all-white Grand Jury

Third, only one of the cops fired his rifle (they had automatic assault rifles)

Fourth, Crawford never pointed his unloaded b-b gun at anyone.

 

[One Brow]

Guys, I have the lowdown on the shooting I live in Ohio, not far from where it took place. So, I did a little research and learned some interesting facts you won't find in the newspapers. I also did an analysis of the video after watching the shooting part numerous times. And what I have to tell you, you're not going to like.

First of all, if you listen closely -- depending on which video you saw -- you can hear the cops give a warning. However, the shooting occurred about a second or even less after they shouted put it down, or so it sounds like that's what they said (approximately 8:26:55 / 8:26:56 for the warning / shot times). Crawford barely had time to turn his head to see them. And he runs off after he is hit but then turns back towards the cops and falls and goes into shock.

Second, the prosecutor picked an all-white Grand Jury

Third, only one of the cops fired his rifle (they had automatic assault rifles)

Fourth, Crawford never pointed his unloaded b-b gun at anyone.

If you have a link to a video with sound, I would like to watch it.