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Griffin PIGS get slaughtered in LA tonight

You know, as much as we rag on Al Jefferson... this team is starting Tinsley Foye and Marvin. That makes it ridiculously easy for the opposition to just stack against our bigs.

This.

Any team with Marvin Williams, Jamal Tinsley and Randy Foye in its starting line-up is going to struggle. Name any team in the league with a starting trio that gives up more points, more rebounds, and is generally as weak.

Just looking at Al's +/- alone tonight, he was +10 when he wasn't playing with Tinsley and Marvin. He was +7 when he wasn't playing with Foye.

To put it more clearly, Foye + Marvin + Tinsley combined for 0 (zero) points on 0 for 9 shooting. The trio also combined for a grand total of 4 rebounds.

Think about that, your starting PG, SG and SF score zero points in more than an entire quarter of the game, during which you get outscored by 25 points.
 
The problem isn't Millsap. It's Al. You can't start Al and Hayward. You are wasting one of them. Also, you can't play Al and Favors together defensively. It is a horrible combination. Al is too useless and Favors is too young. They both need to camp out under the hoop. Here is your starting five:

Mo
Hayward
Carroll
Millsap
Favors

That lineup wins a lot more games.

Your bench would be more balanced as well:

Burks
Foye
Williams
Jefferson
Kanter

Yea, that's better. I really don't care, just get Marvin, Tinsley, Watson, and ten (at least) of Al's minutes out of there.
 
carrolls greatest attribute is the energy he brings to the court whenever he steps on. on most teams this would make it a no brainer to put him on the bench and bring him on as a spark. on the jazz it is exactly why he needs to start.
 
As long as Al and Foye are in the starting line up then Hayward should never start. Those two are team killers.
 
This.

Any team with al jefferson in its starting line-up and being the vocal point is going to struggle. Name any team in the league with a starting center that gives up more points, more rebounds, and is generally as weak.

Just looking at Al's +/- for the season

To put it more clearly, your starting center has a grand total of 4 rebounds.

Think about that, your starting C takes 19 shots in 3qtrs score 16 points in more than an entire quarter of the game, during which you get outscored by 15 points.
FIXED like a Mutha******
 
LOL. Serious? LOL. That is just priceless. Everything the Jazz have accomplished last year and this is in SPITE of Al. Just look at how we get outscored in the first and third quarters of EVERY game.

I disagree. I think everything the Jazz have accomplished is in spite of Marvin Williams, Randy Foye, Jamal Tinsley and Earl Watson.
 
I disagree. I think everything the Jazz have accomplished is in spite of Marvin Williams, Randy Foye, Jamal Tinsley and Earl Watson.

Then you will be happy when the Jazz bring Al back this summer and due to his contract, have to let two of Millsap, Favors and Kanter go, and bring in more players of the Williams/Foye/Tinsley/Watson ilk. You will always have your built in excuse.
 
FIXED like a Mutha******

I like you because you're Dutch. But in all fairness, you're a narrow-minded a**. The Jazz's most productive line-ups this year and last had Al Jefferson in them, along with Favors. The Jazz's worst line-ups consistently have Foye, Marvin Wiliams and Jamal Tinsley in them.
 
green even if your right, which you are not.

you endorse knowing that we've squeezed favors minutes, that finally when hes got minutes were gonna displace him to starting center, when he has expressed he wants to play 4. During his contract year, at 22 y/o.

thats how theyre gonna do the biggest deal-breaking piece we swapped for deron? NO-WAY. wake up alice!!!
 
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