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[spycam1]

Saying Hayward is better than George is so lolzy

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[da ThRONe]

No. He's better suited coming off the bench. Both Hayward and Hood need to have ball in hand to be affective. Adding Burke, who needs to dominate the ball as well is too much. Burke is better utilized off the bench to handle the ball and added scoring punch off the bench. Look at last year. Burke was a complete 100% train reck in the starting lineup. He was much better immediately being moved to the bench.

I actually see Neto as being a very good backup pg in the years to come for Utah. He can play in this league. Let's not forget how good he was yesterday. In his limited minutes. He played more limited minutes but think in the long run he's better then Burke. Not hating on Burke. I've been happy with his play, but his ceiling is more limited then Neto's in my view due to Burke being more of a sg in a 6-0 body with limited athletic abuilities he's a career backup second unit guy with some scoring pop. I agree and support Quinn's choice to start Neto.


Second this lolololol

First people who aren't "hating" don't have to mention that they aren't hating.

What does what Burke did last year have to do with this year? He has done a great job making plays for other this season. Neto handicaps the offense because teams don't have to really defend him. Burke was given point guard duties the last two games with extend mins and has 13 assist and 3 turnovers. Neto should be playing with Burks. His inability to create space hurts Burks far less than Favors and Hayward.

Saying Burke needs the ball is a conplete contradiction to the stats. Somebody in the Burke>Schroder thread made an argument that Burke was really a 2 guard because he was shooting so well from 3 in catch and shoot situations. That in of itself goes to show you he doesn't have the dominant the ball to be effective.

 

[MDAV28]

Statements like this are so bunk man. Both players have entire careers ahead of them. Both have had good starts, in different environments. Hayward actually looked better defensively tonight, and he's easily the better passer. George is the better scorer, as of this point.

Let them both play out their careers and we can compare later. If Favors can overtake offensive option #1 status on this team in his 6th season (something no one saw coming) then it should teach us that the jury is still out on these young kids.

Something about saying George is "easily the better passer" leads me to believe you have probably watched 2 Pacers games this season.

 

[Jamezz]

First people who aren't "hating" don't have to mention that they aren't hating.

What does Burke doing last year have to do with this year? He has done a great job making plays for other this season. Neto handicaps the offense because teams don't have to really defend him. Burke was given point guard duties the last two games with extend mins and has 13 assist and 3 turnovers. Neto should be playing with Burks. His inability to create space hurts Burks far less than Favors and Hayward.

Saying Burke needs the ball is a conplete contradiction to the stats. Somebody in the Burke>Schroder thread made an argument that Burke was really a 2 guard because he was shooting so well from 3 in catch and shoot situations. That in of itself goes to show you he doesn't have the dominant the ball to be effective.

Burke is coming around very well. 7 assists with 0 TO's and 19 pts are starting PG numbers. I love his ball handling too, he dribbles the ball very close to his body that's why you won't see many players stealing the ball from him. I would say he's definitely making a case for starting the way he's been feeding the ball to our franchise player.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

Lawd have mercy.

People saying Hayward is better than George. The homer is strong in here.

 

[Getting Traded]

Lawd have mercy.

People saying Hayward is better than George. The homer is strong in here.

Hayward is more versatile in my opinion, better distributor, higher basketball IQ; PG is more athletic and a better shooter. PG is better but Hayward is not far behind overall, IMO.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Lawd have mercy.

People saying Hayward is better than George. The homer is strong in here.

Hayward holding those W's on George.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

Hayward holding those W's on George.

You've found quite possibly the worst way to compare two players.

 

[ijazz]

I agree they fit. Are we a better team with George? If you're saying no you are delusional.

PG has been part of waaaay better teams than Hayward so I do not know.

Hayward on Pacers with his versatility could be Steve Nash like...very scary.

Yes, PG is a better scorer, absolutely.

Every other dimension I like Gtime.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

You've found quite possibly the worst way to compare two players.

Yeah, nothing less important than head-to-head matchups that determine outcomes of games. I mean, why did Hayward even guard PG in OT? Both should have just taken uncontested 3's, then we crown the winner of the shooting contest the better player, regardless of the outcome of the game.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

PG has been part of waaaay better teams than Hayward so I do not know.

Hayward on Pacers with his versatility could be Steve Nash like...very scary.

Yes, PG is a better scorer, absolutely.

Every other dimension I like Gtime.

I still think Hayward is the better scorer. PG has just turned into a miraculous shooter this year, small sample size though, that has really elevated his stats. Also, he plays next to 3 wings who can all shoot, so his spacing is way more optimal than anything Hayward ever plays with (especially in the starting lineup) by a large margin.

For example, in the 2 games Rudy has been out in this recent stretch, Hayward is averaging 23 points, 5 rebounds, and 4.5 assist, and that still isnt with good floor spacers, just not having a floor clogger like Rudy in the game. Imagine if he actually played next to two (well above) 40% 3pt shooters in the starting lineup (which could actually happen if Quin played Burke and Burks instead of Hood/Neto).

 

[NAOS]

Yeah, nothing less important than head-to-head matchups that determine outcomes of games. I mean, why did Hayward even guard PG in OT? Both should have just taken uncontested 3's, then we crown the winner of the shooting contest the better player, regardless of the outcome of the game.

you're an idiot