Gun control myths and info

[Jazzta]

I don’t think it’s a good idea to politicize gun control. A tyrannical government can emerge from both sides, ironically making the 2nd amendment the one tool that unites the people the most in this country.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Great read:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/02/texas-republicans-just-dont-get-it/

Republicans’ collapse in the Texas suburbs — which is a major factor in making the state competitive — will only accelerate with its defiant attitude on any gun-safety measure. (Of suburban voters in the recent Quinnipiac national poll, I recently noted, “Among those voters, 96 percent favor background checks, 62 percent favor an assault weapons ban, 82 percent favor red flag laws, and 85 percent support gun licensing.”) Republicans’ intransigence in the face of the state’s second mass shooting in less than a month will only make matters worse for a party struggling to avoid alienating a key component of winning Republican coalitions in the past.

If Texas goes blue, it won’t matter what happens in Florida or Pennsylvania.

 

[Deleted member 365]

I don’t think it’s a good idea to politicize gun control. A tyrannical government can emerge from both sides.

It’s been politicized for years. Those who advocate sensible gun control to make our society safer are called weak, anti-constitutional, and face NRA funded opposition.

 

[Jazzta]

It’s been politicized for years. Those who advocate sensible gun control to make our society safer are called weak, anti-constitutional, and face NRA funded opposition.

Would sensible (more like sensitive) gun control make us safer from say, a Trump administration gone full dictatorship? Both you and I know he would drool at the idea of becoming a dictator the likes of Kim Jung.

 

[Jazzmix]

Would sensible (more like sensitive) gun control make us safer from say, a Trump administration gone full dictatorship? Both you and I know he would drool at the idea of becoming a dictator the likes of Kim Jung.

I don't buy that. You can have a gun in every house and it won't stop the tyranny raising to the power if the society is not conscious or educated well enough to see it coming. One courageous and independently thinking person can be more dangerous for a tyran than a troop of arms.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Would sensible (more like sensitive) gun control make us safer from say, a Trump administration gone full dictatorship? Both you and I know he would drool at the idea of becoming a dictator the likes of Kim Jung.

Sensible gun control works in literally every industrialized country in the world. And while many of them are struggling with right wing insurgents, none of them have become dictatorships over lack of armed citizenry.

Voter apathy, corrupt pastors, and Fox News disinformation scares me far more than anything related to guns.

 

[Deleted member 365]

I doubt anyone will bring this up. But recent developments in Hong Kong, Turkey, Poland, Hungary, and Russia (since 1999) cannot be attributed to gun control. Repressive leaders are exploiting religious leaders and disinformation to hammer civil rights and spread paranoia.

Putin fears a free press far more than an armed citizenry. That’s why he’s concentrated so much on owning the airwaves and killing journalists.

 

[Deleted member 365]

I don't buy that. You can have a gun in every house and it won't stop the tyranny raising to the power if the society is not conscious or educated well enough to see it coming. One courageous and independently thinking person can be more dangerous for a tyran than a troop of arms.

This is absolutely correct. And this map showing gun laws by nation supports your post. There isn’t any evidence to support this NRA sponsored idea that guns = more responsive government and fewer guns = dictatorships

It’s yet another lie spewed by the NRA, their bought off politicians, and Fox News.

Fox News is a greater threat to our democracy than gun control.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overview_of_gun_laws_by_nation

 

[fishonjazz]

Would sensible (more like sensitive) gun control make us safer from say, a Trump administration gone full dictatorship? Both you and I know he would drool at the idea of becoming a dictator the likes of Kim Jung.

A. I don't see it (kim Jung style dictators taking over) happening in other developed countries.


B. I don't think we (civilians) could beat the military in a war anyway.

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[LogGrad98]

Does it say in the Constitution what kind of arms you have the right to bear? If it don't specify then, well, you still have the right to bear arms just not the arms you want to bear.

Hell, maybe they were talking about sleeveless shirts? Who knows, that document was written long long ago.

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If you want to get specific when it was written hand-guns really didn't exist in anything near the same form as today. They had muskets, flint-lock and variants largely. So if that is what determines it then we can all have some flint-lock muskets.

Here is a muzzle-loading pistol from that era.

https://www.icollector.com/Constric...Pistol-with-Continental-Army-Depart_i11027901

And here's a nice musket to replace that AR-15.

(Can't connect to the actual picture so it looks something like this)

https://www.ima-usa.com/collections...-captured-at-the-siege-of-seringpatam-in-1799

 

[Miggs]

If you want to get specific when it was written hand-guns really didn't exist in anything near the same form as today. They had muskets, flint-lock and variants largely. So if that is what determines it then we can all have some flint-lock muskets.

Here is a muzzle-loading pistol from that era.

https://www.icollector.com/Constric...Pistol-with-Continental-Army-Depart_i11027901

And here's a nice musket to replace that AR-15.

(Can't connect to the actual picture so it looks something like this)

https://www.ima-usa.com/collections...-captured-at-the-siege-of-seringpatam-in-1799

Can I modify one of these into a flamethrower?

 

[LogGrad98]

Can I modify one of these into a flamethrower?

Um. Sure. But no bump-stocks.