Gun Control
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You can't spark a stone into flame. I'm not denying the agitations and manipulations existed, by the way, I'm saying you are exaggerating their effect. They weren't "behind" the rhetoric and discord, they merely assisted it. The tinder and kindling were already there, and we also put the flint and steel right next to them. At most, foreign manipulators raised the steel a little higher before the strike.
The points she made are getting a little redundant, but it's clear that the gun control supporters can't hear what she's saying for some reason. No one in this thread has addressed the point she makes in the video. They seem time and time again to turn away from those facts and push the same emotionally driven, factually inaccurate, purely propagandized story line that was being used 20 years ago...and all the while calling the rest of us wack-O's and unreasonable.
I can't say how happy I am that there are enough people in this country who refuse to give an inch on this issue. We're not being heard. The legitimate arguments we make are being ignored. There is no room for compromise because nothing meaningful is one the table.
Have fun supporters of gun control, you're not going to accomplish anything and I for one couldn't be happier about that.
The only reasonable thing I have heard is expanding background checks. Ammo restrictions, AWBs and all that is anon-starter and always will be for me.
On a side note ammo is getting exceedingly dificult to get in store now a days. They are out of .223, 9mm .22...
There was a waiting list 6 pages long for .223 at one store.
Unfortunately, I believe this is a consequence of an alarmist reaction to gun control chatter.
At the first breath of "gun control", the far right started going ape-**** about the gov't taking away everyone's guns.
So, everyone goes into hoarding mode, and an artificial deficit is created. Now I gotta lay out $22-25 for a box of ammo that used to cost me $14, if I can find it.
But with all the talk, what has changed? Gun control? Nope, just the cost and availability of arms and ammo.
And the retailers are laughing all the way to the bank.
Yup, people on the left freak out an call for gun bans/control and the right freaks out and buys everything up.
****ing sheep and idiots all around.
Recently passed by the Colorado state legislature - HB 1226, making a Concealed Carry Permit invalid on/in/at any college campus, building, or function. I'm not too bright, so someone please explain how this is anything other than new restrictions placed solely on law abiding gun owners. Does it make college safer if a potential mass murderer knows he/she will find no resistance there?
Reality be damned, it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
Utah allows carry on all campuses and always has. There has never been a shooting at a Utah university/campus
Must be a freaky coincidence...
Very long thread I can't read. I think there should be training and licensing like operating a motor vehicle, and different licenses for different classes of weapons. I don't think gun control will reduce crimes, as this has not been the case in cities and counties where high-powered and assault weapons are banned. I think the media are being very subjective in hyping up the gun-control issue with a political agenda behind it.
Gun owners need to be held responsible for the guns they own and whomever gets their hands on those guns. I don't think guns should be outlawed in and of themselves. Acts of murder, armed robbery and assault are already illegal and carry heavy penalties. Changing the weapon system doesn't eliminate criminal acts or motives. I do think guns should be kept out of the hands of minors.
Gun owners need to be held responsible for the guns they own and whomever gets their hands on those guns. I don't think guns should be outlawed in and of themselves. Acts of murder, armed robbery and assault are already illegal and carry heavy penalties. Changing the weapon system doesn't eliminate criminal acts or motives. I do think guns should be kept out of the hands of minors.
yah. A lot of water under this bridge.
well, the "Constitutional" issue is just applicable to the Federal government. Except most states have some similar constitutional rendition of the Bill of Rights of their own.
I don't like the laws we have. Net effect on me, since I travel quite a bit and can't stand to research all the jurisdictions I have to pass thorugh, is I never take a gun. Stupid laws.
the standard legal principles of torts already covers negligence and damages resulting from irresponsibility. Common sense covers the rest of what you said better than any law ever will.
I was taught as a child what a gun is, and what it does, and how to use it effectively. Nine year old with a 45 magnum. Don't ever get silly in the head with a gun in your hand. No lock needed. My dad kept his guns somehow, I don't know where. I never saw one sitting within my reach as a child.
you are right about the politicization and insanity of the hype.