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I'm not saying any of that, I'm saying that using the stereotype of stupid drunk college kids as a justification for restricting gun possession is not a strong or convincing argument.

What would some hypothetical strong arguments for gun control look like? If you are reflexively opposed to any arguments for gun control, then of course you won't find this convincing.

However, my main point was not that drunken college kids was the main argument for keeping guns out of schools, but that lines of thought which delineated the campus residents into "criminals who will have guns no matter what" and "rational people who won't misuse guns" were ill-founded and inaccurate.
 
The best way to control guns is to make ammo almost impossible to get. It's ****ing annoying.

Yup. Went to Sportsmans Wharehouse and their shelves were empty as well. They had signs up limiting 1 firearm purches per customer, 2 clips per customer and 1 bulk ammo (250+) per customer.

Annoying as hell.
 
Okay, I've held back long enough. I promise I'm only going to do this once and then drop it.

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A clip is a device that is used to store multiple rounds of ammunition together as a unit, ready for insertion into the magazine or cylinder of a firearm. This speeds up the process of loading and reloading the firearm as several rounds can be loaded at once, rather than one round being loaded at a time. Several different types of clips exist, most of which are made of inexpensive metal stampings that are designed to be disposable, though they are often re-used.

A magazine is an ammunition storage and feeding device within or attached to a repeating firearm. Magazines may be integral to the firearm (fixed) or removable (detachable). The magazine functions by moving the cartridges stored in the magazine into a position where they may be loaded into the chamber by the action of the firearm. The detachable magazine is often controversially referred to as a clip or mag.
 
What would some hypothetical strong arguments for gun control look like? If you are reflexively opposed to any arguments for gun control, then of course you won't find this convincing.

However, my main point was not that drunken college kids was the main argument for keeping guns out of schools, but that lines of thought which delineated the campus residents into "criminals who will have guns no matter what" and "rational people who won't misuse guns" were ill-founded and inaccurate.

and just which universe is it that you live in?

We've had every kind of tyranny we can think of in this one. When are you going to wake up and smell the coffee? The whole thesis of your world view consists of the dogma that those who know best should have power to tell the rest.

Hasn't anybody ever been able to tell you anything? You're sitting on a pile of your own ****, and you think you've got it all figured out, principally because someone has been able to convince you they know it all.

Until you can make yourself comfortable with questioning authority, you won't be open to questioning yourself, or smelling your own stuff. . . . and you won't really be OK with letting human beings be free, either. Yah, I know you're hung up on a version of history and a world view that claims "progress" consists of certain ideals, all dressed up in the claim that these are the good ones.

But they are the same ideals that have been claimed by virtually every tyrant there ever was. This isn't progress. Human liberty would be progress, but authoritarian top down rule is not.

The reason why there is a Bill of Rights is because everyone who has ever had unlimited power has abused whatever human beings they had power over. And no, there is no "strong argument" for giving more tyrants more power, or to disarm the people.

While some people will use weapons to kill others piecemeal, one by one or maybe even whole schoolrooms of kids, as abhorrent as that is, it is nothing on the scale governments have done to their own citizens when the citizens were powerless to deter a tyrant. "Right Wing" dictatorships have killed thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands, but idiological marxists and socialists have killed millions just in the past century.

It's a simple case of minimizing the whole range of risks, and those who ignore the risks governments pose against their own people are just not honest in their arguments.
 
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I don't. That's why you limit availability.

But the law I cited has nothing to do with availability. It extends a new control over 1 group only - Concealed Carry Permit holders. These are people who have complied with existing laws and passed a background check in order to legally carry a concealed firearm. I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that these are, by their very nature, law abiding citizens. So, in effect, all that law does is make good citizens more vulnerable. It doesn't make anyone safer.

If you are reflexively opposed to any arguments for gun control, then of course you won't find this convincing.

If you are reflexively opposed to any arguments against gun control, then of course you won't find this convincing. It's a two-way street, eh?
 
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