Hopper
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Head has signed with Nawlinz, so it's a moot point, now, but I wonder why so many fans base their conclusions on a game or two they personally saw? After 5 years in the league, Head is a career 39% 3-point shooter.
Guys I'd rather have than Wesley Matthews
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Head has signed with Nawlinz, so it's a moot point, now, but I wonder why so many fans base their conclusions on a game or two they personally saw? After 5 years in the league, Head is a career 39% 3-point shooter.
InGameStrategy
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I don't see any player on the above lists that I would want more than Wes Matthews.
In addition to WM, Etan Thomas might be nice for a modest salary (minimum possible?); he's an aging but strong center who ironically just finished a 6-year, $36M deal.
Taking fewer shots and being responsible for less offensive output are positives for FG%. Comparing him to guys that the defense has to key on is, as a result, a non-starter.
This is the reason his FG% when he's taking eight shots a game is 48%, but when he gets significantly more involved in the game his field goal shooting plummets.
In the playoffs he shot around 10 times a game and shot 38%.
There are also a number of red flags regarding Matthews shooting:
1. His hotspots chart reveals he was a pedestrian shooter in the mid-range, which significantly limits his offensive usefulness.
2. His hotspots chart also shows his shot selection, and that reveals that he knows he has no mid-range game. This is the big differentiation offensively between him and Korver. You can run any of those pin-down curl plays from 18-20 feet for Matthews that you could for Korver.
3. These trends got WORSE as he took more shots. In 10 games and over 100 shots, only 13 times did he take a shot that wasn't a 3 or in the immediate basket area.
4. If Matthews is such a great shooter, why is his PER significantly below average? Based solely on measurable offensive numbers, Matthews PER was still lower than Brewer's last season in what was Brewer's worst year of his career and even though Brewer has obvious and known liabilities offensively. Oh and Brewer will come at a fraction of the price based on how the market is playing out and we won't be wedded to him for five years when we don't know what the next CBA will look like. That's really what this thread is about: assessing alternatives.
Actually I talked about his shooting percentage for the playoffs in their entirety (38%) and then singled out a particular game where he was horrendous and his shooting killed us. All of this was in response to Archie pointing out that his ppg increased during the playoffs. But thanks for playing.
We can scratch Tony Allen off the list. he's going to Memphis for 3 years/$9.7 million. In other words, less than half the cost of Matthews per year and with fewer years committed. KOC just lost out to Chris Wallace.
Brown is 6-4, 210, 25 yrs old. Wesley is 6-5, 225 and just 23.
I am not sure what makes Brown all that attractive. His FG% are all lower. As a replacment for Price or as a backup for Deron, maybe. He is more of a combo guard like Antonio Daniels.
Not certainly as a starting shooting guard
I am not sure what makes Brown all that attractive. His FG% are all lower. As a replacment for Price or as a backup for Deron, maybe. He is more of a combo guard like Antonio Daniels.
Not certainly as a starting shooting guard
freakazoid
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Kicky,
Points noted. However, you used a whopping four game stretch against the best team in the league as your basis for one of your arguments. Pretty weak.
Also, you've taken one part of a rookie's game (mid-range) and ripped it to shreds. I'm sure the same could be done for just about any other stud's game. No one's perfect. D Wade's three point shooting is mediocre at best. Matthews flaw is his mid-range game which yes, in our system is pretty important. That said, like any player, he's flawed and makes up for it in most other areas. I think it's worth noting that Matthews PPS was 1.36 last year, higher than any other SG not named Manu. With more shots, I expect that to drop. However, evidence shows that players improve over time and I wouldn't be shocked to see him continue to get better.
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Also, just compare Matthews shooting technique with Brewer, and you have your answer about who is a better shooter. Regarding his mid-range game, that is something he needs to develop. His perimeter offense has been mainly his three, and when players come out to guard him, he blows by them and goes inside. In fact, his offensive strength is inside, not with the same type of shots, but like Tony Parker, and like him is deceptively strong, but bigger and stronger than Parker.
Matthews shooting technique isn't in question. However his Points per shot are fundamentally important to our team's offensive efficiency.
Fact: Brewer is and was more offensively efficient. More importantly if we can get Brewer on a shorter lower priced contract that just increases his relative worth.
Rasual Butler is still out there as is Josh Childress. We have several choices.
How about Matt Barnes?
Edit: re-read and saw him already mentioned. I wouldn't prefer him over Wes but he'd be a good signing, good outside shooter and gritty defender.
Edit: re-read and saw him already mentioned. I wouldn't prefer him over Wes but he'd be a good signing, good outside shooter and gritty defender.
TheMulletMutilator
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The same people defending re-signing Matthews are the same people who are going to be complaining about the signing for years to come.
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I don't think we should match wes
But I really don't think we should resign Brewer unless it's for a very short contract. No team can win a championship with that guy and his terrible jumpshot. Rondo's And Shaq's jumpshots are about the same, but they do a lot of things better than Brewer.
But I really don't think we should resign Brewer unless it's for a very short contract. No team can win a championship with that guy and his terrible jumpshot. Rondo's And Shaq's jumpshots are about the same, but they do a lot of things better than Brewer.