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Dr. Jones

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I resisted becoming a Jazz fan for almost 5 years until I finally gave in. I have since been resisting learning all the rules with trades, salaries, etc ..

Where would a guy start to learn this stuff if he's a complete novice? (but likes to become an expert, eventually)
 
This is the base of the trade rules per the old CBA. In the new CBA there are a few changes. So here is a start.
Here's the link to BlogMaverick: https://www.blogmaverick.com/.

With all the discussion about trades and free agents, I thought I would offer some housekeeping so that everyone can understand what can and can’t happen in regards to trades and free agents in the NBA.

First. A team cannot just take and trade an unrestricted free agent to the team of their choice. The free agent has to want to go that team, has to agree to the trade and fully work out contract terms with that team. So whether it was Steve or anyone else, before any trade to a team could be worked out, the free agent would have to negotiate and agree on a deal with the destination team. In essence this is the equivalent of a no trade clause. The free agent is just that, and can choose to go or not go to a team.

2nd. If a team signs a free agent or a rookie, that player cannot be traded till the 15th of December. So we can’t sign a free agent from another team and immediately trade the player. Nor can we trade Devin Harris or Marquis Daniels for example.

3rd. In trades, if the teams exchanging players are over the cap (and the Mavs are), then current year salaries exchanged must be within 15pct plus 100k dollars of each other. So if the Mavs trade a player who makes 1mm per year, we can take a player, or players, whose total salaries in the current year equal $1.25mm. That breaks down as 1mm plus 15pct of 1mm plus 100k. Rights to players or draft picks who are unsigned do not add any monetary consideration to the totals.

If one or both of the trading teams are under the cap, they may receive a player up to the amount of their cap room without giving up equal salaries. If a team is at or over the cap, they must adhere to the above rules

4th. If you acquire a player in a trade, you may trade that player straight up for another player immediately. If you wish to package that player with another and make a trade, you must wait 60 days.

5th. In a sign and trade deal, the deal must be for at least 3 years, and the first year MUST be guaranteed, the next 2 or more years do not have to be guaranteed.

6th. If a player is part of a sign and trade, and that player receives more than a 20pct increase in salary, that player is considered a base year player. When a player is considered a base year player, the team can only take back salaries equal to 1/2 of the current year salary of the base year traded, or 120pct of the previous year salary (whichever is higher)* if that player is traded to a team at or over the cap. If the player is traded to a team under the cap, base year does not apply.

The reason for this rule is to prevent teams with a players bird rights (the ability to pay a player any amount up to the max) from offering a player an inflated deal with only 1 year guaranteed in order to get a higher priced player from a team that may be trying to dump salary.

So for instance, if we wanted to do a sign and trade with a player whose salary jumped from 4mm to 8mm dollars, we would only be credited for 4.8mm in salary for that player in the trade. We would then add the 15pct plus 100k to the 4.8mm, meaning we would be able to take back a player making $5.62mm. This would make it impossible to do a 1 player for 1 player deal. We would have to make the deal bigger or bring in more teams in order to make the deal work.

Making up the base year trade penalty is why you see trades get very big when there is a player included who is receiving a big raise.

7th. There are 3 exceptions available to teams that are over the cap. (If a team is under the cap, they may not use the exceptions.)

a. The mid-level exception. This allows teams to sign a player to a 6-year deal with a starting salary that is the average salary of the entire league. If the player is your own player, you can offer up to 12.5pct increases. If the player is from another team, you can offer 10pct increases. Increases are based on the first year of the contract. So a 5mm dollar contract with a 10pct increase, increases 500k per year. A 12.5pct increase would be 625k per year.

b. The 1.6mm dollar exception. This can be a 2-year contract only and a team can not use this 2 years in a row. If you use it one year, you do not have it available the next.

c. The minimum salary exception. A team can sign as many minimum salary players as they have roster slots for.

The exceptions have changes from this for teams over the Cap with this new CBA. Over Tax teams get less money to offer when they use an Exception.

Anyway this was a short summery that hits the major points. There are a few others that I read that I'm going to have to find again and post. But here is a start for you PKM
 
This is the base of the trade rules per the old CBA. In the new CBA there are a few changes. So here is a start.


The exceptions have changes from this for teams over the Cap with this new CBA. Over Tax teams get less money to offer when they use an Exception.

Anyway this was a short summery that hits the major points. There are a few others that I read that I'm going to have to find again and post. But here is a start for you PKM


Thanks Ben.
 
I resisted becoming a Jazz fan for almost 5 years until I finally gave in. I have since been resisting learning all the rules with trades, salaries, etc ..

Where would a guy start to learn this stuff if he's a complete novice? (but likes to become an expert, eventually)
I don't have any particular websites (others have provided links with of alot of solid Salary Cap FAQ) but IMO the best way to learn gradually is simply by experience - each offseason transaction has some consequence in regards to salary cap and once you start taking note of each ramification - the basic fundamentals (things like salary cap/luxury tax/FA exceptions/trade exceptions/salary requirement in trades/Bird rights) become second-nature.

FWIW I've always considered you a well-informed fan, so the fact that you may not be a "cap expert" is a little suprising but don't get too overwhelmed in the details. In reality once you understand the basic fundamentals you'll be plenty informed. There's alot of fine print and technicalities but overall the meat&potatoes of the CBA isn't too difficult to comprehend.
 
Thanks vslice. It's a bit overwhelming for me because the HS and NCAA experience I own (no pun intended, lol). Diving into the NBA (which I have forever hated until a few years ago) is daunting.
 
I can't believe nobody has posted Larry Coon's Salary Cap FAQ. It's long, but a good resource if you have a specific question. Ctrl+f is your friend:

https://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm
Yep. No reason to go anywhere else for salary cap info.

For player/team salaries, shamsports is extremely reliable (do not trust hoopshype):https://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/index.jsp

You can find the text of the collective bargaining agreement on the NBA Players Association website. This is good for non-salary cap issues, like the NBA's drug policy (the 2011 CBA isn't up yet):https://www.nbpa.org/cba/2005
 
If you don't know WTF and are in a hurry, you might be able to test it in ESPN Trade Machine.

Knowing your **** is better though. Larry Coon's is great, or at least it was. I'm too lazy to go check (again) if he'd updated it to the 2011 CBA.
 
Kevin O'Conner came to one of my classes at the U once to talk about salary caps, contracts...and all that other good stuff. Didn't do me any good 'cause I'm still a novice...just like you. Maybe I should've listened in class.
 
Only thing I have to add is that the trades balance changed from 115% to 125% I guess they want to make it easier for teams to dump salaries when they screw up and sign a player for too much.

One of my favorite things in then nba is looking how teams build. I am no expert, I make mistakes all the time don't worry if the know-it-alls correct you, no one here is getting paid to know the CBA. Just make your mistakes and learn from them.
 
Being on the other side of the veil has a few perks. I know some things that nobody else does. Feel free to hit me up whenever.
 
Only thing I have to add is that the trades balance changed from 115% to 125% I guess they want to make it easier for teams to dump salaries when they screw up and sign a player for too much.

One of my favorite things in then nba is looking how teams build. I am no expert, I make mistakes all the time don't worry if the know-it-alls correct you, no one here is getting paid to know the CBA. Just make your mistakes and learn from them.
Pretty sure it went from (teams over the cap) being able to take back 125% (+ $100,000) to 150%.
 
You'd really have to study to know every rule. For instance, when you listen to Jazz talk on the radio it's amazing how often the radio guys put out bad info when it comes to the trade rules. And they are suppposedly sports professionals.

There is a CBA related forum on RealGM that is very helpful if you have a question you can't find an answer to elsewhere.
 
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