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Harris Sucks as a PG

How does Harris compile assist when his main scoring threat is an ISO-post player? When his starting SG can't score? When his starting SF is playing weak? When his starting PF is in a shooting slump?

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Harris doesn't help his teammates much, but at least he's playing aggressive and doing SOMETHING out there. 19 points on 9 shots is insane. Getting to the line and hitting 3s matters, and if he can do more of the latter more consistently, he'll extend his effectiveness by about 3 years.

History says that is unlikely, though.
 
Well, having seen Stockton and Dwill over the years, Jazz fans have a high standard to compare others to. Some might say we've been spoiled, others that we're accustomed to a higher standard of living. Pardon me for not wanting to slum it with Devin Harris. I'll continue to look for better accommodation.
 
Well, having seen Stockton and Dwill over the years, Jazz fans have a high standard to compare others to. Some might say we've been spoiled, others that we're accustomed to a higher standard of living. Pardon me for not wanting to slum it with Devin Harris. I'll continue to look for better accommodation.

There is currently nothing better on the market that can be had for a reasonable price. It's a recession.
 
This is what happens when you have Stockton and Dwill as your two main PG's over the last 25 years. People get spoiled. Harris made several nice passes last night. He isn't going to make every pass, but he usually makes the easy ones. He isn't selfish. I hardly see him taking many pull up jumpers or ill-advised shots. When he does shoot it is usually a spot up 3 or a drive. I think the key to our success this year will be the aggressiveness of Harris. When he gets going teams have trouble not fouling him, which leads to our whole team playing more aggressively. He may not make his teammates better with his passing, but I think the way he pushes tempo does.

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Harris with 5 assist at half and making nice passes in the half-court off the pick and roll.
 
This is what happens when you have Stockton and Dwill as your two main PG's over the last 25 years. People get spoiled. Harris made several nice passes last night. He isn't going to make every pass, but he usually makes the easy ones. He isn't selfish. I hardly see him taking many pull up jumpers or ill-advised shots. When he does shoot it is usually a spot up 3 or a drive. I think the key to our success this year will be the aggressiveness of Harris. When he gets going teams have trouble not fouling him, which leads to our whole team playing more
aggressively. He may not make his teammates better with his passing, but I think the way he pushes tempo does.
Is there something wrong with taking pull up jumpers?
 
Why is that shot selfish and other shots are not selfish?

I think the Jazz really need to take more pull up shots. Why drive into a crowd when you've got an open shot from short range?
 
Why is that shot selfish and other shots are not selfish?

I think the Jazz really need to take more pull up shots. Why drive into a crowd when you've got an open shot from short range?

A pull up jumper requires no ball movement. I don't mean if he is wide open in space and pulls up, I mean if he has a defender and tries to pull up in his face. Just generally not a great play, especially if you aren't a great shooter.
 
Harris had some very nice D-Wil esque pick n roll runs at the first half today.
But maaaan this game was ugly. It's games like this that you need Evans off the bench.
 
I think Harris got royally screwed out of 5 points and into 2 TO's on terrible charging calls.
 
Harris has played a lot better over the last 2 games. And he hasn't played bad on the whole (but hardly great.) Expectations might be a little high given what we're used to. Lets see how the next 5 or 10 games go.
 
After reading through the posts, as one poster put it, the point was that Harris is not a good PG. I never said he isn't skilled or talented. He just doesn't have the court awareness or the mentality of a point guard. He looks for his own shot before thinking pass, which often results in him taking a bad shot when there are teammates with much better and easier opportunities. As a result, I think he is better suited to be a backup PG, a role he filled well when he played for Dallas.
 
Read this on another site. Talking about the game vs. the Bucks. "They actually had three point guards play a combined 48 minutes and they scored a combined 0 points." Play Burks at point guard. Guaranteed he will score some points and give more assist to I would bet.
 
A pull up jumper requires no ball movement. I don't mean if he is wide open in space and pulls up, I mean if he has a defender and tries to pull up in his face. Just generally not a great play, especially if you aren't a great shooter.
Also add to that that mid-range jumpshots are the least efficient shots you can take in basketball and that taking them off the dribble makes them even less efficient.

It's all about getting to the rim, getting to the line, and shooting threes. Harris has shown that he can do all of those things, even if totally erratic on a night-to-night basis.
 
8 assist, including a clutch pick n roll executed between him and Big Al to tie the game up late.
 
8 assist, including a clutch pick n roll executed between him and Big Al to tie the game up late.

As an old school Jazz fan, it frustrates me to see a big roll to the basket only to have the ball passed to the opposite side of the court which ends in a reset or rushed shot, however, the last couple of games they seem to be doing a better job of running the pick and roll.
 
This is not your prototypical, "Stockton to Malone" type basketball we are playing right now with this roster. Get over it folks. Things can work in different ways. I think Watson and Harris compliment each other well and fill each other's holes. At this point, it's Corbin's job to make the pieces fit.
 
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