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Has our future position gotten better, worse, or stayed the same since trading Rudy/Donovan?

Has the value of our future position gotten better, worse, or stayed the same since the trades?

  • Better

    Votes: 4 6.7%
  • Worse

    Votes: 52 86.7%
  • Stayed the same

    Votes: 4 6.7%

  • Total voters
    60
Changed my vote to better, mostly because of Lauri. He's still a massive trade piece. He's the kind of player who can take a team from pretender to contender.

The teams at 2 and 3 are both perfect fits for Lauri. If they can get a deal done, I think everyone changes their minds on this question.
 
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The monkey on our back at the moment is the pick owed OKC in the Favors salary dump. Thats on DL but Ainge hasn't exactly hit on his draft picks either.
 
Easiest poll I have ever filled out on JazzFanz. Trading both of them made no sense at the time. And if you were going to trade both of them, blow it up and tank year one. This is the worst FO work in the NBA during this time period and the worst Jazz FO work since the moved to Utah.
 
Well he did try to trade for Bridges. Maybe that’s why the Knicks had to pay 5 picks for him.

And he would have helped us reach the Finals in the West?

No chance..

Smokes and mirrors all the way.

They planed to tank all along.. just delayed it so we don't have empty arenas over the past 3 years.

All comes down to $$$$ at the end of the day.
 
As pissed as we all are. Think how Ainge, Smith, Hardy ect all are. The plan backfired.
Fan support will drop significantly from all of this. Most of my friends that grew up jazz fans don't even turn any of the games on this last year. Their kids don't watch or care. Once you lose them, you don't get them back.
 
As pissed as we all are. Think how Ainge, Smith, Hardy ect all are. The plan backfired.
Fan support will drop significantly from all of this. Most of my friends that grew up jazz fans don't even turn any of the games on this last year. Their kids don't watch or care. Once you lose them, you don't get them back.
Arenas’ still packed though.

We have enough young players now that fans wanna follow regardless of how the team’s doing.
 
And he would have helped us reach the Finals in the West?

No chance..

Smokes and mirrors all the way.

They planed to tank all along.. just delayed it so we don't have empty arenas over the past 3 years.

All comes down to $$$$ at the end of the day.
No trade the Jazz could’ve made was going to win us a title last year. Had we made that trade we wouldn’t have tanked.
 
Interesting how tanking skeptics are suddenly emboldened to come out of the woodwork after a year+ of being brow beaten and marginalized by the vociferous pro-tanking crowd. The Jazz tanking "strategy" has been revealed for what it's always been: Let's give our consumers a shiity product and hope and pray we beat the odds and get lucky. "Wing and a prayer" strategy is a more apt term.

My answer to the question is that we are much further away from contention than we were before all this began. Rather than doing the hard work of building a team through creative moves and calculated risk taking, the Jazz FO decided to cross their fingers, rub their lucky rabbit foot, invoke the heavens for favor, and bet it all on a roll of the dice, so to speak. They followed the lazy path of least resistance, which has the added benefit of insulating themselves from criticism because they can always sell hope that maybe, just maybe this year we'll get lucky. And, if we don't get lucky this year, there's always next year. Wash, rinse, repeat.

Meanwhile, fans endure season after season of a crappy, uncompetitive, unentertaining product with the most likely outcome that the Jazz more or less become the team the FO blew up just a few years ago, competitive, entertaining, with some chance of relatively deep playoff runs, but not a championship caliber team.

God, I freak'n hate tanking. It sucks all the fun out of the experience.

That said, the FO may yet salvage the situation with some shrewd moves, thereby accelerating the path back to relevance. THAT is what I'm hoping for. I'm not pinning my hopes on dumb, random luck in some future lottery. It's time the FO stops doing so as well.
 
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