I know... talk about spreading the floor.
If he hit those in the game, it would open things right up.
Hate BYU, but don't hate Jimmer
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I know... talk about spreading the floor.
If he hit those in the game, it would open things right up.
gomretat
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What is the definition of a great shooter? For me, it is shooting a high percentage. Jimmer's averages in college were OK. He hits spectacular shots. His range is unbelievable. When he is in a zone, he makes everything he throws up - like CJ. But I can't call him a great shooter unless I change my definition. And before you start with the blah blah about how he was defended, check out his percentages for all 4 years.
You mean his 39% 3 point career, where he created the majority, and jacked up from 40 footers? Terrible, terrible shooting.
He'd crush 33 footers in the NBA day and night, with a guy in his grill a la Peja 2003 catch-and-shoot off screens. His eyes would roll into the back of his skull, blaze fire and blind defenders, while remotely steer the ball to the bucket.
The kid will hurt teams picking and rolling too.
Ooh, and have you heard he's been impressing at the combine? Those are the professionals, in case you all didn't know.
Homers > Commies.
Totally agree here!
And to go along with Franklin on this, are you saying his 50% 2pt percentage should have been 55 or 60 for him to be a good shooter?
For his college career he shot:
40% from 3
90% from the FT line
46% of all shots jacked up total ... and
50% of all 2pt shots jacked up
Pretty weak eh?
gomretat
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Great foul shooter for sure. But as I have stated before, I don't consider someone who is not in the top 100 in D1 in 3pt shooting a GREAT shooter. I don't consider someone who had more games shooting less than 33 % from beyond the arc than he did 50% or better a GREAT shooter. I don't consider someone who have 1/3 of his games shooting 25% or less from 3 a GREAT shooter. If those numbers still mean great to you so be it. Then we just disagree on the definition. He is a good shooter, but if I am drafting someone for the specialty of being a GREAT shooter, the numbers don't add up. Again his range is incredible. And he makes spectacular shots. Those are not my definition of great. So if I am drafting JF, I am doing it for more than his shooting, particularly picking anywhere in the lottery.
Even though this will make the zealots mad, I saw this last week and found it interesting.
Even though this will make the zealots mad, I saw this last week and found it interesting.
gomretat
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If you believe what you said, you should obviously draft him #3. I don't. I do think his decision making is another good topic however.
I am a BYU fan. Have been since I was a little kid. And I love what Jimmer did this year for the team and how good he was in collage. But unless he proves he can play at least passable Defense, Can actually get into the lane against an NBA quality defender and then find a guy that is open when the help comes, then I would like to see the Jazz take someone else. Just don't think we need an undersized 2/Slow PG that doesn't play D.
Gomretat, you're guilty of boxscore ballin'. If you watched him play at least a tiny bit then there would be no way you could call him a poor shooter. You're pretty much the only person on the planet making this desperation claim. Jacking up 40' treys and being guarded by 3 out of 5 Aztec's and still going off for 40? Your pumping D.O.A. silliness. Come on, Gamescore Gomre.
In other news, watching the Jimmer @ the combine was impressive. He has offensive moves that no other participating player came close to competing with. Watch the shooting drills after the 20 minute mark in ESPN's replay. The Jimmer has moves that not a single other participant could even wave a white flag at. He straight Hiroshima'd those poor suckers. And he impressed PLENTY from start to finish, top to bottom, in and out.
In other news, watching the Jimmer @ the combine was impressive. He has offensive moves that no other participating player came close to competing with. Watch the shooting drills after the 20 minute mark in ESPN's replay. The Jimmer has moves that not a single other participant could even wave a white flag at. He straight Hiroshima'd those poor suckers. And he impressed PLENTY from start to finish, top to bottom, in and out.
Stifle Tower
Punch Bowl Re-Filler
I wonder...had the Jazz dropped to #7 or #8 would they have been tempted to take the Jimmer with their first pick?
It may be a "mute" point now. They're not going to take him at #3 and I still think he'll move into the top-10. If the Jazz somehow got Williams at #3 and Jimmer was there at #12, I wouldn't be upset with the pick. Fredette could be a good shooter off the bench, drafting him would sell a ton of tickets, and he'd be a Jazz player for life.
It may be a "mute" point now. They're not going to take him at #3 and I still think he'll move into the top-10. If the Jazz somehow got Williams at #3 and Jimmer was there at #12, I wouldn't be upset with the pick. Fredette could be a good shooter off the bench, drafting him would sell a ton of tickets, and he'd be a Jazz player for life.