Hawks at Jazz...or Rudy's Revenge 7pm

[David Stern]

I think we're gonna get outbid for Ricky. I bet Chicago or some other desperate team throws him something like 5 years, 50 million or something like that.

 

[Nate505]

If we re-sign Rubio for anything even close to $23 million a year then Dennis Lindsey should be fired.

I agree. His inconsistency is maddening. I do like parts of his game (his defense, his layups at the rim, and the occasional brilliant pass), and think he is a great teammate and good for locker room chemistry. But man alive he can single handedly cost the team games as often as he can win them.

 

[Jingled]

I think we're gonna get outbid for Ricky. I bet Chicago or some other desperate team throws him something like 5 years, 50 million or something like that.

That would only be $10 million a year...he's definitely getting more than that.

 

[MVP]

I'd rather roll with Exum the scrub than be stuck with Rubio at 3/50.

Why would you worry how much he is getting paid? In your scenario we are worse team and how is that any better than paying Rubio fair market value?

 

[MVP]

10m is fine, since he can come off the bench when we get an upgrade.

Why would he sign to be come off the bench over some upgrade? I think it is clear that if Jazz are getting upgrade they will let Ricky walk as they have committed to Exum as their backup PG. Or in your scenario we would be paying Rubio 10mil to be backup and Exum 9mil to be a 3d string PG? Makes 0 sense to me.

 

[carolinajazz]

But man alive he can single handedly cost the team games as often as he can win them.

You talking about Rubio or Mitchell?

 

[David Stern]

That would only be $10 million a year...he's definitely getting more than that.

You're right. I meant 2 years, 50 million with a team option for year 2. He's gonna get a JJ Reddick-like contract from someone.

 

[magic]

Out of curiosity, since i never noticed a trend of Rubio playing well against bad team (it's seemed the opposite really) I looking at last year's game logs. Ricky's top 10 Game Scores were against: Spurs, Lakers, Grizzlies, Warriors, Pelicans, Spurs, Trailblazers, Timberwolves, Suns, Timberwolves. Really only 1 scrub team on that list.

First off games with most points scored as the measure for how well he played is a terrible measure. Secondly, those weren't his top 10 game scores. These were:

Rk G Date Age Tm Opp GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
▼ GmSc +/-
1 5 2018-10-27 28-006 UTA @ NOP W (+21) 1 29:33 8 14 .571 3 7 .429 9 9 1.000 0 6 6 12 1 0 2 2 28 29.8 +26
2 17 2018-11-19 28-029 UTA @ IND L (-27) 1 27:52 10 13 .769 5 6 .833 3 4 .750 1 3 4 6 3 1 4 3 28 26.8 +1
3 20 2018-11-25 28-035 UTA @ SAC W (+21) 1 26:44 11 16 .688 2 3 .667 3 4 .750 0 7 7 5 0 0 3 4 27 20.8 +5
4 27 2018-12-09 28-049 UTA @ SAS L (-13) 1 35:32 11 23 .478 3 8 .375 1 1 1.000 0 3 3 2 0 0 1 1 26 15.2 -8
5 33 2018-12-21 28-061 UTA @ POR W (+30) 1 26:59 10 15 .667 4 4 1.000 0 0 0 2 2 8 1 1 5 1 24 20.0 +14
6 24 2018-12-02 28-042 UTA @ MIA L (-2) 1 36:05 9 13 .692 2 4 .500 3 3 1.000 0 5 5 6 1 0 3 3 23 20.0 +14
7 8 2018-11-02 28-012 UTA MEM L (-10) 1 31:50 9 17 .529 3 7 .429 1 2 .500 0 2 2 11 1 0 4 4 22 17.0 +11
8 46 2019-02-01 28-103 UTA ATL W (+16) 1 35:17 6 11 .545 2 6 .333 8 10 .800 0 2 2 11 1 0 2 4 22 21.6 +30
9 16 2018-11-17 28-027 UTA @ BOS W (+12) 1 28:17 6 13 .462 2 4 .500 6 7 .857 0 4 4 2 3 0 1 2 20 16.7 +14
10 39 2019-01-05 28-076 UTA @ DET W (+5) 1 29:35 6 13 .462 1 4


Use https://www.basketball-reference.com and sort by points to see the top 10 since the formatting here is ****.

Half of those teams are crap teams. And yes he can occasionally become Rick Curry, but his inconsistency is undesirable.

 

[Sandman822]

Why would you worry how much he is getting paid? In your scenario we are worse team and how is that any better than paying Rubio fair market value?

Your anti-Exum bias is ridiculous lol, don't want to give Conley $33 mil a year despite clearly being a better player yet we shouldn't worry about how much Rubio gets paid.

 

[Zombie]

First off games with most points scored as the measure for how well he played is a terrible measure. Secondly, those weren't his top 10 game scores. These were:

Rk G Date Age Tm Opp GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
▼ GmSc +/-
1 5 2018-10-27 28-006 UTA @ NOP W (+21) 1 29:33 8 14 .571 3 7 .429 9 9 1.000 0 6 6 12 1 0 2 2 28 29.8 +26
2 17 2018-11-19 28-029 UTA @ IND L (-27) 1 27:52 10 13 .769 5 6 .833 3 4 .750 1 3 4 6 3 1 4 3 28 26.8 +1
3 20 2018-11-25 28-035 UTA @ SAC W (+21) 1 26:44 11 16 .688 2 3 .667 3 4 .750 0 7 7 5 0 0 3 4 27 20.8 +5
4 27 2018-12-09 28-049 UTA @ SAS L (-13) 1 35:32 11 23 .478 3 8 .375 1 1 1.000 0 3 3 2 0 0 1 1 26 15.2 -8
5 33 2018-12-21 28-061 UTA @ POR W (+30) 1 26:59 10 15 .667 4 4 1.000 0 0 0 2 2 8 1 1 5 1 24 20.0 +14
6 24 2018-12-02 28-042 UTA @ MIA L (-2) 1 36:05 9 13 .692 2 4 .500 3 3 1.000 0 5 5 6 1 0 3 3 23 20.0 +14
7 8 2018-11-02 28-012 UTA MEM L (-10) 1 31:50 9 17 .529 3 7 .429 1 2 .500 0 2 2 11 1 0 4 4 22 17.0 +11
8 46 2019-02-01 28-103 UTA ATL W (+16) 1 35:17 6 11 .545 2 6 .333 8 10 .800 0 2 2 11 1 0 2 4 22 21.6 +30
9 16 2018-11-17 28-027 UTA @ BOS W (+12) 1 28:17 6 13 .462 2 4 .500 6 7 .857 0 4 4 2 3 0 1 2 20 16.7 +14
10 39 2019-01-05 28-076 UTA @ DET W (+5) 1 29:35 6 13 .462 1 4


Use https://www.basketball-reference.com and sort by points to see the top 10 since the formatting here is ****.

Half of those teams are crap teams. And yes he can occasionally become Rick Curry, but his inconsistency is undesirable.

Half of those teams are playoff bound, of those that aren't only Atlanta is what I would call a 'crap' team. You're also looking at this season, OP said he looked at Rubio's top ten games from last season.

In any case it looks like you proved his point. Ricky clearly doesn't only play well against bad teams.

 

[magic]

Half of those teams are playoff bound, of those that aren't only Atlanta is what I would call a 'crap' team. You're also looking at this season, OP said he looked at Rubio's top ten games from last season.

In any case it looks like you proved his point. Ricky clearly doesn't only play well against bad teams.

I literally said 'highest scoring games' is a bad measure for 'playing well', idiot. And I then proceeded to show that even if that was what constituted playing well, he would still be wrong.

 

[MVP]

Your anti-Exum bias is ridiculous lol, don't want to give Conley $33 mil a year despite clearly being a better player yet we shouldn't worry about how much Rubio gets paid.

Where did I ever mention Exum? Are you seeing things? Maybe get off the glue.