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Hayward excitement level

Hayward is better as Robin and not as Batman; a John Taylor and not a Jerry Rice. We need a legit #1 scorer - Hayward will be a 25 PPG guy if we have an all-star-caliber guy like Durant or even Anthony.
 
I can't see Hayward as more then a role player. Meanwhile Hood and Burks have all the potential real assassins. Watch games right now when the going gets tough Hayward doesn't want to take over a game. We have seen Hood take over a forth quarter. Burks brings slashing that we are missing. Hayward is like a utility knife but so are so many players in the NBA. Leonard is able to step up and take over games. George is able to step up and take over games. Hayward has yet to show that he is capable to do anything but be unselfish. I like that he shares the ball. But, he is in the year that he should be doing more then what we see. I don't see defenses focusing on him that is a myth that we are being sold. I don't think Hayward is Robin he is more like Alfred always there but not ready for the big time.
 
Cunning Linguist said:
Not as much as it sounds.

Draymond is the only person in the top 15 in the league in both rebounds and assists. He's leading the Dubs in assists and is the only non-guard in the top 15. His overall stats are 14.7 points, 9.6 rebounds (leads the team), 7.5 assists (leads the team), 1.4 blocks, 1.3 steals (17th in league--ahead of Favors), and is quite clearly an elite defensive presence and their best defender as well as their locomotive and that which makes them run not just emotionally (great, great leader--best in the league imo) but in many ways, functionally, with his ability to run the point forward and find open shots for their shooters as well as himself, in stretching the floor.
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Good point. Those numbers combined with the things he does that doesn't show up in numbers is pretty compelling
 
Mission Accomplished said:
I don't see defenses focusing on him that is a myth that we are being sold.
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Wow. Not sure where to begin. Guarded by top defenders. Tackled on inbound pass. Covered with high physicality.

Taking Hayward out of the game given limited scoring options on the floor (e. g., lyles, neto, gobert) is the primary defensive strategy and such an obvious one opposing teams are deploying.
 
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He is only guarded by the player across from him. I see no doubles or really any focus when Burks was slashing up a team you could see a real focus on him. Hood has had teams match him up differently like the when they put Tony Allen was matched up on Hood. He was on Hayward then they rotated him over due to the big game Hood was having and Hood still ended up with 30 pts.

I was thinking what Haywards comps are I'm thinking Tayshawn Prince, AK, and Matt Harpring
 
ijazz said:
I'll bite.

Hayward is key if we want a future.

I think he is sick of having no one around him and other teams being able to take him out because we have no one else.

Look at Leonard from the Spurs. Swap him with Hayward and I bet you Hayward does better on the spurs and Leonard worse on the Jazz than Hayward.

Perspective.....
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I think you're underestimating how good Leonard is.
 
Mission Accomplished said:
I can't see Hayward as more then a role player.
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A role player is one or two dimensional player with limited all-around NBA skills who fills a limited and well-defined role:
....Korver/ Novak = 3 point shooter
.....Battier/ Bowen = 3 and D
.....Rambis/ Mahorn = bruising defensive interior anchor
.....Rim protector = Eaton, Deandre, Rudy

Hayward is anything but a role player. One could argue that his skills will never be "elite enough" and that is a good discussion. But the guy has a solid all-around multidimensional game.
 
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