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Hayward finally looking right?

spycam1 said:
I agree to a certain degree. I think he could end up being the "leader" of this team, but that doesn't necessarily mean I think he'll be the best player on the team. I see him having a Manu type role: scoring in a variety of ways, while also creating for his teammates and coming up big at the end of games. He'll be a very balanced player. In his prime, I see him averaging around 15 points, 5 assists, 4 rebounds. His potential is an elite glue guy, imo.
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Isn't Ginobili an all-star
 
Seriously, I see him having a trajectory similar to Harden. I know his shooting is down, but he has a great release and form to his shot. This stuff will be corrected as he countinues to gain confidence and adjusts how quickly he is getting his shot off.

* Edit- Not calling him Harden, just that he wasnt thought of being able to adapt to the game his first year and a half.
 
The past couple games, he is showing that he is a natural SG and that is where he belongs. On offense, he has an advantage to muscle guys a bit as he showed against Ellis, Billups, and Williams. On defense, he uses his size to get blocks and make them shoot tough jumpers. If he is playing a quick guy like Ellis, he is obviously at a bit of a loss, but he doesn't give up on the play and that is to be commended. If he is the permanent starting 2 for the rest of the season, I see a most improved award in his future.
 
I am willing to bet that Ty will move Hayward back to the 3 when Raja comes back. It's obvious that Hayward plays better at the 2, obvious to everyone except Ty.
 
sojodave said:
I am willing to bet that Ty will move Hayward back to the 3 when Raja comes back. It's obvious that Hayward plays better at the 2, obvious to everyone except Ty.
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Probably. But hopefully he lets him play the 2 when Raja sits.
 
Easily Hayward's best game. Shades of AK for the way he was all over the floor making plays. And the aggression was very nice to see. He needs to keep building on this game, though. His trend is mixing a good game with passive games so hopefully this was the eye opener for him.
 
I see his ceiling as a Hornacek with good defense -- he's about four inches or so taller -- but not Manu. Manu at his best was one of the best in the world. To me, he has been underrated in the NBA.
 
As the game slows down for him he'll get more comfortable. I'm surprised that he's having these confidence problems to begin with really, especially after having to battle his whole life to be taken serious with those looks, and after being such a stud in college.
 
sojodave said:
I am willing to bet that Ty will move Hayward back to the 3 when Raja comes back. It's obvious that Hayward plays better at the 2, obvious to everyone except Ty.
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True story.

While Corbin has been somewhat more proactive than the veterans-get-preference-no-matter-what-our-team-needs-and no-matter-the-team-performance philosophy of Ol' Jer, this move-Hayward-to-the-2 shift came--like many other adjustments--as a response to injury rather than sound strategy and experimentation. I wish that the coaching staff would more thoroughly analyze what players and combinations work best BEFORE it becomes expedient to do so.

Bell has notched up in his performance since those dismal first few games, but Hayward-Howard is likely a better combo to start, with Bell-Miles bringing a good defense-offense mix off the bench. I simply don't understand how Bell gets such a free pass for minutes; he can be a "team leader" at least as effectively--perhaps more so--on the sidelines.

82 games is no perfect measure (not that any such system exists), but Bell ranks dead last in net individual player production vs. his opponent--and dead last overall on the team in a mixed rating of individual and team impact.
https://www.82games.com/1112/1112UTA.HTM

I want to see what a starting lineup of Tinsley-Hayward-Howard-Millsap-Jefferson (or Kanter) can do. If they give up too many points, then put Bell back in as a starter--or sub him in earlier.
 
InGameStrategy said:
True story.

While Corbin has been somewhat more proactive than the veterans-get-preference-no-matter-what-our-team-needs-and no-matter-the-team-performance philosophy of Ol' Jer, this move-Hayward-to-the-2 shift came--like many other adjustments--as a response to injury rather than sound strategy and experimentation. I wish that the coaching staff would more thoroughly analyze what players and combinations work best BEFORE it becomes expedient to do so.

Bell has notched up in his performance since those dismal first few games, but Hayward-Howard is likely a better combo to start, with Bell-Miles bringing a good defense-offense mix off the bench. I simply don't understand how Bell gets such a free pass for minutes; he can be a "team leader" at least as effectively--perhaps more so--on the sidelines.

82 games is no perfect measure (not that any such system exists), but Bell ranks dead last in net individual player production vs. his opponent--and dead last overall on the team in a mixed rating of individual and team impact.
https://www.82games.com/1112/1112UTA.HTM

I want to see what a starting lineup of Tinsley-Hayward-Howard-Millsap-Jefferson (or Kanter) can do. If they give up too many points, then put Bell back in as a starter--or sub him in earlier.
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Why not start FAvors next to Big Slow? Then we have our two biggest out there together. Sap-Kanter seems like a good mix. But what they hey, either one seems like a better mix of size, defense, offense, and experience than starting AJ-PS and having the two youngins play together off the bench.
 
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