In other words:
1. Your statement about CJ was idiotic.
2. Millsap didn't improve his shooting in Atlanta, as you had claimed. He was used differently. The 11/12 and 12/13 Jazz offenses ranked 6th and 10th in the NBA on a per possession basis. The 13/14 Hawks ranked 18th.
3. Carroll was a fringe player before arriving in Utah. Not only did he become an NBA rotation player in Utah, his shooting improved while in Utah...
Your ******** never ends.
Sorry, Millsap DID improve his 3 PT shooting in Atlanta. And his 2-pt % was statistically about the same.
Carroll improved his overall game.....................A LOT! And he says it was because of the
coaching in Atlanta. Kudos to the Jazz GM for picking him up off waivers. He was buried behind a deeper bench in Denver. Jazz needed a SF and they were able to find 16 mins/per for him. Is a player going to improve with playing time and being on a NBA roster? Hell yeah. I could go into Jazz camp and improve my skills. But something Quin did with Demarre and SA did with Kawhi, Mills, etc. is much different and better than what Utah has been doing to date.
CJ had declined with the Jazz. I NEVER attributed that solely to Corbin in my original post, did I? In fact, I never mentioned Corbin. I just said with better coaching maybe there was hope for our current players to improve.
Your ******** never ends in terms of blind and irrational support for Ty. I respect you for your knowledge of the CBA and often defer to you and ask you to clarify certain points (or correct me if I'm wrong).
My original post was never meant to be a condemnation of Ty. In fact, if what Demarre said was true, the ENTIRE player development program needs to be looked at. He credits his success to Quin working with him FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HIS CAREER. So obviously, the player development guys for 2 years (I believe that would have included Sanders, Jones, Jensen and Bryant) FAILED him. I only refuted franklin after he posted misleading or entirely WRONG data.
The difference with Quin is that he HAS been a proven player development coach, Carroll just being the latest example. And Dennis wants to model our system after SA's, which places an emphasis on player development. Don't think there was enough of that under Sloan and Ty, especially at the fringes. Sure, you are always going to have improvement. A player doesn't come from 1 year of college as a finished product. Is LBJ better than he was when he came into the league? Kobe was shooting bricks in the first few playoff series against Utah. He was far from the Black Mamba. Great players will do a lot of development on their own. Others need a lot of coaching.
IMO, Ty is a decent coach...if he has a veteran team. But it just didn't work once Paul, Randy and Mo were let go. Then the emphasis is on development and Ty AND HIS STAFF didn't show an enough aptitude for that. And don't take just my word. Lindsey was the one who set the standard of evaluating on player development and improvement in defense. Ty wasn't retained so he failed badly enough on one or both of those measurements.
