Hayward or Paul George

[Hotdog]

Hayward. I don't see much of George play but it seems Hayward is a more well rounded player. Like someone said earlier, PG seems to have fallen off on D, for whatever reason.

For whatever reason,

Lmao

 

[fishonjazz]

Wow. This thread is hilarious. Yeah, easy to say Hayward now while completely forgetting and dismissing the fact that Paul George snapped his leg right in half not that long ago. Hayward has surely made some nice strides, but I think Paul George hit a snag in his development wouldnt you say?

True. But that leg break did in fact happen. So its not our fault that it happened and we are taking it into consideration when comparing the two right now. For whatever reasons/excuses most of us think that hayward is the better player right now.

 

[candrew]

Wow. This thread is hilarious. Yeah, easy to say Hayward now while completely forgetting and dismissing the fact that Paul George snapped his leg right in half not that long ago. Hayward has surely made some nice strides, but I think Paul George hit a snag in his development wouldnt you say?

Right, in 15 years I've never seen a single thread on here from someone looking for vindication.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Wow. This thread is hilarious. Yeah, easy to say Hayward now while completely forgetting and dismissing the fact that Paul George snapped his leg right in half not that long ago. Hayward has surely made some nice strides, but I think Paul George hit a snag in his development wouldnt you say?

And Grant Hill would have been one of the greatest of all time if his prime wasnt cut short by injuries but we live in reality and not Peter Pan land.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

And he had his best year ever directly off of injury, so I don't think it has held him back that much if at all. It may have presented a speed bump in his development, but to blame that for his decline after a career year seems inaccurate.

 

[MTS]

Wow. This thread is hilarious. Yeah, easy to say Hayward now while completely forgetting and dismissing the fact that Paul George snapped his leg right in half not that long ago. Hayward has surely made some nice strides, but I think Paul George hit a snag in his development wouldnt you say?

Paul George's most efficient season came in 2015-16 - AFTER he snapped his leg in half. And he still wasn't as efficient as Hayward has been this season.

So, yeah.

 

[Deleted member 848]

Paul George "peaked earlier" because he didn't have to deal with a cast of John Lucas III, Trey Burkah, Mo Williams, Jamal Tinsley, Josh Howard, and Shelvin Mack starting next to him. Hayward didn't have a single shooting threat on the perimeter next to him (apart from the defensively incompetent Randy Foye) through basically his first five seasons.

 

[Stifle Tower]

And he had his best year ever directly off of injury, so I don't think it has held him back that much if at all. It may have presented a speed bump in his development, but to blame that for his decline after a career year seems inaccurate.

Great point. I'd say over the last couple of years, Hayward closed the gap. This season he's clearly better.

I think I proposed trading back for Whiteside or drafting Henry. Obviously KOC was right. Couldnt have gone wrong with either George or Hayward.

 

[Hotdog]

Paul George "peaked earlier" because he didn't have to deal with a cast of John Lucas III, Trey Burkah, Mo Williams, Jamal Tinsley, Josh Howard, and Shelvin Mack starting next to him. Hayward didn't have a single shooting threat on the perimeter next to him (apart from the defensively incompetent Randy Foye) through basically his first five seasons.

What are you talking about? He had the great Trey Jesus Burke or whatever you named him. He was like the greatest player ever. No excuses.

 

[Hotdog]

And Grant Hill would have been one of the greatest of all time if his prime wasnt cut short by injuries but we live in reality and not Peter Pan land.

What is Peter Pan Land? Have you been there before?

 

[8]

Paul George "peaked earlier" because he didn't have to deal with a cast of John Lucas III, Trey Burkah, Mo Williams, Jamal Tinsley, Josh Howard, and Shelvin Mack starting next to him. Hayward didn't have a single shooting threat on the perimeter next to him (apart from the defensively incompetent Randy Foye) through basically his first five seasons.

PG definitely had a way better supporting cast, but he also had very little shooting around him. That was kinda the downfall of those Indiana teams imo - lack of offense and shooting. He is a more explosive athlete (at least, he was early on, probabaly had better measurables and stuff) and I think that may have allowed him to impact the game more than Hayward early on, while both were honing their skills.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

PG definitely had a way better supporting cast, but he also had very little shooting around him. That was kinda the downfall of those Indiana teams imo - lack of offense and shooting. He is a more explosive athlete (at least, he was early on, probabaly had better measurables and stuff) and I think that may have allowed him to impact the game more than Hayward early on, while both were honing their skills.

They had a great shooting starting lineup. All 3 of their perimeter players were above 35% from deep on volume attempts and David West was one of the best midrange shooting PF's in the NBA.