Gyp Rosetti
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Anyone who doesn't think Hayseed is going to be ROY is a moron.
Hayward the TOP ROOKIE in summer league
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I agree Babbit but up nice numbers, but that's why Hayward's accomplishments are more impressive: Gordon't numbers still dwarf that of Babbit. While Babbit's 3 point shooting is only slightly below Hayward's, his shooting from the floor is nearly 20% worse. Babbit did score 3 more ppg, but played 50% more minutes and needed tons more shots. So, yes, Babbit's numbers are nice, but just not comparable to Haywards. Same thing about Jones. Yes, some numbers are comparable when adjusted per minute, but 42% from the floor is 20% worse than that of Hayward. It's a huge difference, which puts Hayward well ahead. As far as Cousins he shot the ball very poorly. 33% (1/2 of Haywards FG) is very poor for anyone, especially a C. Cousins had 5-18, 3-15, 1-12 as his last 3 outings. And 5 TO/game throughout the tournament. If Hayward had these numbers, people would already proclaim him a bust. So, these 3 guys certainly did not have a better summer than Hayward.
Wall really scored and passed well, and certainly argument can be made for him as being the best. With that said, his Achilles heal was shooting %. 38% is low, and 5 TO/game is high. But ... overall a great summer for him too. He was #1 pick overall though, and deservedly so. I am sure he will be a star. But the point here is that there are a few guys perhaps that come close to all around great performance of Hayward this summer, and this is very encouraging. Certainly no shame having a worse summer than #1 overall pick, although with poor shooting % and TOs Wall had, I could see why some would rank Hayward's summer even higher at #1 overall.
He fits the Jazz mold. He's efficient, unselfish, a good passer, can rebound and score when need be. He'll compliment the rest of the team really well.
Stifle Tower
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Funny how you couldn't find a Millsap specialty. He certainly isn't an elite shooter.
I don't want to bring up the whole it is just summer league thing again but that works both ways right? Meaning since it is just summer league against mostly scrubs guys like wall should shine right? He shot 37% from the floor and 12.5% from 3 against inferior talent. Wall shot an average of 17.5 shots a game to average 23.5 points. Now don't get me wrong I am not saying he is not going to develop but I will take 61% and 33% averaging 4.2 shots a game for 10.8 points per game. Wall got to the free throw line a lot which boosted his points a lot my question is does he still get to the line like that against NBA quality defenses and against superstar and all star players? Also lets all just ignore those two games against the Clips and Warriors with 8 TOs, and don't tell me it was his team being terrible because he did not do that the first two games.
carolinajazz
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.....I'm answering a quote from another poster who stated: "I think Hayseed looks skinnier than he is because he's so damn white. Black people just naturally look more jacked".....merely point out that white guys can also naturally look "jacked" by stating they have won Mr. Universe contests....and your accusing ME of being racist? By the way, I was not born or raised in Carolina...either of them. I'm partial to S.C. because of the mild winters and friendly people! You, on the other hand, come from or are living in one of the most segregated and racist states in the Union, Colorado!!! Nothing was said or meant to be racist. You guys need to lighten up on this board!
carolinajazz
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...I think he meant "cracker"....as in "hayseed"...."yahoo"...."redneck", etc. You got them all over...but they tend to migrate and then stay in the southern states!