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Haywood just officially signed with the Celtics

I'm going to go out on a limb here (and probably make some enemies):

I think the thing that has really upset Jazz fans is the simple fact that Hayward left the Jazz for "greener pastures.

I disagree. I would have been equally pissed if he did what he did and went to Brooklyn. Maybe even more pissed cause I wouldn't understand it. I at least understand why he went to Boston. (He wants to make sweet love to Stevens)
 
If you're a salesman for a company and interview with a new one you don't tell them "I'll come work for you as long as you give my old company two of your best five accounts"
Except that's not the way it would have gone down. Only Jazz fans were expecting Crowder to come our way. But once Boston dumped Avery, they no longer had to clear salary. It could have been a simple Hayward to Boston for a TPE. Utah could have even chipped in a 2nd-round pick. It's a courtesy. Chicago did it when Boozer signed with them.

I know why Ainge didn't do it. 1) He's an ******* and every GM hates him. There may be loyalty among thieves with 29 GM's, but Ainge isn't in that group. He feels a need to screw everyone else if he can. 2) He absolutely has to WIN this acquisition. Can you imagine the backlash if Utah's record is as good without Hayward and Boston doesn't improve by very much - if at all? By not giving Utah an exception, Jazz couldn't go out and make a significant uneven trade.
 
He can go where he wants and I don't really think we missed out on much with the delay so maybe that's why I'm not so upset.

It's done and over and I didn't care to get into a Hayward conversation again I'm just sick of hearing about how Chris Paul is some saint cause he made sure the clippers were taken care of when that has nothing to do with it.
Gallinari for one.
 
Gallinari for one.

Did you listen to 1280's interview with DL yesterday? They referenced a pitch DL & Quin recently made to a client of one of the most powerful/long-time agents in the business in DC. I'm guessing this must be Gallinari (Arn Tellem) or Porter (David Falk). And more than once DL has referenced hearing the news about Hayward after leaving a 5-hour flight. My guess is DL was trying his best to prepare for the contingency that Hayward left.

It may be that Gallinari just decided the Jazz were too late. Or it could be that he decided that he just preferred the Clips in any event. But it sounds like there's a pretty strong chance that DL had been in contact with Gallinari's camp.
 
Did you listen to 1280's interview with DL yesterday? They referenced a pitch DL & Quin recently made to a client of one of the most powerful/long-time agents in the business in DC. I'm guessing this must be Gallinari (Arn Tellem) or Porter (David Falk). And more than once DL has referenced hearing the news about Hayward after leaving a 5-hour flight. My guess is DL was trying his best to prepare for the contingency that Hayward left.

It may be that Gallinari just decided the Jazz were too late. Or it could be that he decided that he just preferred the Clips in any event. But it sounds like there's a pretty strong chance that DL had been in contact with Gallinari's camp.

I'm sure he was working on Plan B. Lindsey probably made a few calls as early as the 1st. But by July 3rd, the deal with LA was essentially done. Gallinari wasn't going to just wait around until the evening of the 4th. And then Utah would have needed to make some roster moves, just like Boston had to.

Porter was never a serious option as a FA, IMO. To make an offer, Utah would have needed to clear a ton of cap space. I could be wrong, but after renouncing everything but the hold for Ingles, they could only get down to about $86M. So they'd have to trade Burks or someone else to clear more cap space. Plus Washington stated all along they would match any offer. I think DL was probably exploring a S&T.
 
Attention Haywood haters:

Cappy needs that interview with his agent making up dumb excuses.


Many, many pos rep for man who helps Cappy.

THANKS!!!!


(seriously, even dutch or Boris or hack....anyone helps here...many pos rep)
 
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Nice pic of gobert

THIS GUY JUST SAID GOBERT IS CHICKEN ****!!!

NEG TRAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Anybody else get the impression that MattNie is actually a paid employee of the Gordon Coward camp. I think Hayward is paying a PR firm to troll message boards and try to change the minds of fans. Its almost pathetic. Fans can't be fans on a team message board. this PR firm want to convince fans not to be mad he left, just be happy he was there 7 years. It ridiculous, pathetic and obvious. There is not excuse for what he did, no justification that will ever sit well with true Jazz fans. If Coward cared at all he would have forced Boston to give us something.

CP3 professional (thousand time more than Coward)
Hayward=coward (forever)
 
Jazz organization and the millers have been nothing but 1st class

All the beat writers and many fans have not

As GH said in the call he gets being upset but making violent personal threats against not only him but his family is way out of line

I follow Hayward because I follow butler. Shoot me


I’ve watched literally every jazz game last 7 years and became a fan

I was expecting fans to be upset but classy. Wish him well as you do every player the jazz cut with no notice

But most of not all writers and most fans have literally turned on a 7 year relationship when the only person who really knows is Hayward

I’ve learned a long time ago to take people at their word until proven otherwise

Everyone is believing espn ******* over Hayward blows my mind. That jackass was even worried Hayward would change his mind because of his leak. That should tell you all you need to know. He guessed and got it right

Looks to me like someone told him he was leaning Celtics which Hayward acknowledges and reported as truth. That’s ********

I just thought Hayward has done enough to get the benefit of the doubt but I guess not

On a personal level I find it strange that apparently the only person Hayward has talked to was Quinn

I remember Locke greasing the skids 2 weeks ago that he may leave

His big item was all the losing and what they’ve done is too little too late

And the RFA time. Don’t forget that was a DL and Miller family decision to tell him he was not worth it

My guess is things may have been said that he won’t let go

You get what you give. If Hayward would have just come out and said "You know what, I think Boston is the best place to continue my career. And I think it's the best place for me and my family. So Jazz fans, I'm sorry, but I'm going to Boston." right when he had decided that's what he was going to do then all of Jazznation would have respected him. Instead he d***** the Jazz around. He gave the Jazz the indication that trading for Rubio and signing Ingles would increase their chances of keeping him. He went on this 3 day trip visiting all three teams that was for no other purpose but to stroke his ego and increase his brand BECAUSE HE ALREADY KNEW WHAT HE WAS GOING TO DO. And stop with the bs that he hadn't decided. Several nba insiders with trusted sources around the league say otherwise. Vehemently. And then when news breaks that he's going to Boston, he and his agent flat out LIE that it's not true. And they are STILL lying about it. We're supposed to show him class after all the lying and deceit? Really? **** that. He still hasn't called Gail Miller or Dennis Lindsey. Is that classy? Gtfoh.
 
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