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Be careful about your superlative credibility comparisons. Not wanting to deal with the other side's facts with a reasonable discussion puts you in a worse light than the birthers and 9*/11 darkside psyops theorists who do in fact sometimes go over the mainstream assertions and discuss them in a factual way. . . .

Why in the world would I want to listen to, much have discussional analysis, on something so absurd? (By the way, I would feel the EXACT same way if this were an indictment of a liberal President.)

Is it just to maintain a fairness of bipartisanship? To reach across the aisles? I'm happy to collaborate with anyone, regardless of party alignment, so long as their agenda is for a positive outcome .. solution based. I care not to waste time with those that wallow in baseless conspiracy theories when there are real and urgent matters that need immediate attention.

It's not that I do not respect a differing opinion. I can even concede that I may be wrong ... that something I think is baseless, could, in fact, have substance. However, if I choose to spend my time on real and pressing matters that are undeniably real, then I shouldn't be made to feel ashamed that I want to spend my time away from the theorists.

I think it's a matter of what you stand for and what we should be taking most seriously .. prioritizing.
 
Why in the world would I want to listen to, much have discussional analysis, on something so absurd? (By the way, I would feel the EXACT same way if this were an indictment of a liberal President.)

Is it just to maintain a fairness of bipartisanship? To reach across the aisles? I'm happy to collaborate with anyone, regardless of party alignment, so long as their agenda is for a positive outcome .. solution based. I care not to waste time with those that wallow in baseless conspiracy theories when there are real and urgent matters that need immediate attention.

It's not that I do not respect a differing opinion. I can even concede that I may be wrong ... that something I think is baseless, could, in fact, have substance. However, if I choose to spend my time on real and pressing matters that are undeniably real, then I shouldn't be made to feel ashamed that I want to spend my time away from the theorists.

I think it's a matter of what you stand for and what we should be taking most seriously .. prioritizing.

Bam!

I personally would give Babe a little more credit than that. But I quite enjoyed that post PKM.
 
Why in the world would I want to listen to, much have discussional analysis, on something so absurd? (By the way, I would feel the EXACT same way if this were an indictment of a liberal President.)

Is it just to maintain a fairness of bipartisanship? To reach across the aisles? I'm happy to collaborate with anyone, regardless of party alignment, so long as their agenda is for a positive outcome .. solution based. I care not to waste time with those that wallow in baseless conspiracy theories when there are real and urgent matters that need immediate attention.

It's not that I do not respect a differing opinion. I can even concede that I may be wrong ... that something I think is baseless, could, in fact, have substance. However, if I choose to spend my time on real and pressing matters that are undeniably real, then I shouldn't be made to feel ashamed that I want to spend my time away from the theorists.

I think it's a matter of what you stand for and what we should be taking most seriously .. prioritizing.

Or we could go to two wars against a created devil. That has been a positive hasn't it.
 
Because it is on Youtube means it has to be real. Where the hell did WMDs come into this? Are you just mixing everything from the last decade into one giant conspiracy?

This is like saying because it's on the ten o'clock news told by Dick Nourse or some other talking head with smooth manners it's got to be real.

I was interested in the 1995 OKC bombing, listening to the news. The first news on the air had it that there were some Arab terrorists involved. The American who was later executed had been to the Philippines and associated with some moslem extremists/terrorists there. He was also extensively "worked" by our agents prior to the bombing. He was rushed to his execution in June 2001 while he was confidently saying he had information he would divulge in exchange for his life. The fact is our Patriot Act was already written, just waiting for the "right time" to be rushed through Congress.

In 1995 the Philippine government turned over detailed plans for hijacking commercial airliners to our government authorities. Yet Condoleeza Rice emphatically maintained "Who'd have thought anyone would ever do something like this?" right after 9/11. She had the file on the plans. . . . George Bush had the file on the plans.

The fire department in a Manila suburb responding to the 1995 apartment fire in the unit occupied by known moslem terrorists found bomb-making materials as the proximate cause of the fire, and retrieved the computers with the plans. The Philippine government was duly concerned, and notified our government at the highest levels of responsibility.

Going through regular news reports of people involved with government agencies at a series of events including the shooting of a set-up owner of a sawed-off shotgun at Ruby Ridge in Idaho, and the Wacko attack on the Branch Davidians, and the OKC federal agents working with Timothy McVeigh produced compromised darkside psyops agents of our law enforcement who could be quickly silenced on various murder charges, who also had alleged contacts with those involved in 9/11.

But the telling thing above all else is the way George Bush sat in the elementary classroom reading a childrens book while the Pentagon burned, and three days later cleared the Bin Ladin relatives who were his personal acquaintances in Texas for flying out of the United States while all air traffic was supposed to be grounded.

Couldn't take any chances on letting anyone interview those folks. . . .

"just mixing everything from the past twenty years into one long-range government objective of getting some of the people's constitutional rights out of the way of "management". . . . . " ?????? No, tens of millions of things happen in ten or twenty years. . . . but some things are connected in lines of progressive developments towards some events. . . . and a few of those have been worked on by some interested agents or real planners.

Denying that there are connections between some facts is like trying to argue that the city building codes aren't the result of planning or the actions of city managers. . . . . they just happen, tragically, and nobody can ever know why.

Partisan loyalties can be a fine thing, and make for clear-cut associations between citizens interested in the course of government. Some might deride political activists as a special kind of "terrorist" that doesn't bomb public places, but instead pass public laws. . . . Frankly I'm more concerned about these abundant "terrorists" we can rightly fear as "interested but ignorant citizens" than about a few dozen hard-core institutional tools in our "intelligence" agencies. But don't discount your own susceptibility to blinders while you ply your trade in loyalties. It is the art of con men worldwide to smooth-talk us into doing their interests and not realize our own.

And that is why we should not vote for Hatch or Romney. They are self-deceived tools who will sell your soul to the system for their little place in the limelight.
 
It saddens me to see you post crap like this.

Hey I'm just saying muslims aren't the people taking away our rights. The muslims didn't get us into two giant wars with a country that was already slipping into a recession. Maybe Bush was just a doofus but what if he wasn't and he did exactly what he wanted to do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6KbUpGNBts
 
No one said Muslims were taking away our rights. You are fighting a battle that does not exist on here. Stop blaming Bush for all the wrongs in the world. Guy is gone and good riddance. Move on.
 
Or we could go to two wars against a created devil. That has been a positive hasn't it.

Probably you're talking about Iraq and Iran, not WWI and WWII.

"Woodrow Wilson's War" where we got a huge campaign up to make the boys volunteer with the song "Over There", when most Americans before that publicity blitz were distinctly isolationist. . . . . and where in the end the war resolved nothing but cost millions of lives. And fired up our manufacturing engines into a great "military industrial complex"

But it didn't really get the League of Nations up and running like WWII galvanized action for the United Nations.

J Prescott Bush was investigated during the war for his trip to see Adolf Hitler and deliver a satchel of cash just before the Reichstag Fire enabled Hitler to suspend the old government and take absolute dictatorial power to himself. Yep, the grandpa of Dubya and the father of GP Bush, and these are folks Mitt has found such favor with.

During WWII the Rockefellers held major interests in German industries including the Pharmaceutical giants and IG Farben, who were involved in the death camps. Nice folks, right, Stoked????

And our military adventurism in spreading "democracy" as a virtual UN world cop has won us so many admirers and friends as a nation. And boy oh boy, our military production corporates have run up tabs in the trillions on the US public for doing all that. Yes, indeed, a real "positive", right stoked???

So to make sense of KOC, whether sincere or not, the "created devil" is a financially powerful and interested military production industry, the pride of world, right.
 
Probably you're talking about Iraq and Iran, not WWI and WWII.

"Woodrow Wilson's War" where we got a huge campaign up to make the boys volunteer with the song "Over There", when most Americans before that publicity blitz were distinctly isolationist. . . . . and where in the end the war resolved nothing but cost millions of lives. And fired up our manufacturing engines into a great "military industrial complex"

But it didn't really get the League of Nations up and running like WWII galvanized action for the United Nations.

J Prescott Bush was investigated during the war for his trip to see Adolf Hitler and deliver a satchel of cash just before the Reichstag Fire enabled Hitler to suspend the old government and take absolute dictatorial power to himself. Yep, the grandpa of Dubya and the father of GP Bush, and these are folks Mitt has found such favor with.

During WWII the Rockefellers held major interests in German industries including the Pharmaceutical giants and IG Farben, who were involved in the death camps. Nice folks, right, Stoked????

And our military adventurism in spreading "democracy" as a virtual UN world cop has won us so many admirers and friends as a nation. And boy oh boy, our military production corporates have run up tabs in the trillions on the US public for doing all that. Yes, indeed, a real "positive", right stoked???

So to make sense of KOC, whether sincere or not, the "created devil" is a financially powerful and interested military production industry, the pride of world, right.

I was talking Iran and Iraq. And that since WWII all of the money that we have been pouring into our military and having the most powerful military in the world. For what threat the big "Red" scare wasn't going to keep people up at night anymore. So, I think we knew about muslim extremists and we did nothing to stop 911. Don't you see how it galvanize everyone when Bush's numbers and the economy were starting to tank. He was a man on fire he was able to do what he wanted after Sept. 11
 
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