Hillary Going For Broke

[Deleted member 365]

Lol, tell that to the people you carry Democracy to.

Who have we carried Democracy to? I'd love to know. I've seen us blow a lot of stuff up and make a lot of foreigners rich. But I'm not sure if I've ever seen us give Democracy to another people in my lifetime.

In fact, I'm a big believer that members of a certain country are actually the ones who decide what form of government they will ultimately have.

If we truly were a Democracy and could vote on wars, I think the last country we would have given "Democracy" to would have been Japan. All other wars since have been completely unnnecessary.

 

[Duck Rodgers]

We aren't a Democracy. Why do people keep calling us one? We aren't.

Sure we are. As defined in the language of our times. Direct democracy is almost completely obsolete in modern times so democracy has just shifted to being an umbrella term for various government configurations. Representative democracy fits into the context of a Republic just fine.

 

[Duck Rodgers]

The elite "media" cartelists package this and propagandize it as "democracy", and a lot of people believe it.

And of course I agree with this too. Our language is totally getting muddled and 1984'd on purpose.

 

[babe]

Who have we carried Democracy to? I'd love to know. I've seen us blow a lot of stuff up and make a lot of foreigners rich. But I'm not sure if I've ever seen us give Democracy to another people in my lifetime.

In fact, I'm a big believer that members of a certain country are actually the ones who decide what form of government they will ultimately have.

If we truly were a Democracy and could vote on wars, I think the last country we would have given "Democracy" to would have been Japan. All other wars since have been completely unnnecessary.

Well, it may depend on what definition of "Democracy" you consider valid. The term is used in western media to mean "government like ours, with regular showcase "elections" where voters are supposed to choose between a few choices put forward by an elite, enlightened set of folks who have good connections and enough money to pay for influence as well as name recognition.

OK, OK, OK. . . . . you're absolutely right.

I share your antipathy for our penchant for blowing stuff up. Institutional, national, militarized "terror", isn't it???

People just aren't ever going to have any rights, liberties, or political power they don't insist on having. I think it takes some unusual circumstances to get enough people to effectively "insist". I prefer educational efforts over "blowing stuff up", and for the most part, the people in this world just have never seen it as a realistic expectation in life. I think I could do quie a bit of writing on examples of manipulators using false rhetoric agitating for "the people" in one way or another. I put it down as a rule that those who are calling for any kind of violence. . . ."blowing stuff up". . . . are just going to prove to be worse monsters than the ones we have in place now.

I'm studying Gandhi now.

 

[ema]

Who have we carried Democracy to? I'd love to know. I've seen us blow a lot of stuff up and make a lot of foreigners rich. But I'm not sure if I've ever seen us give Democracy to another people in my lifetime.

In fact, I'm a big believer that members of a certain country are actually the ones who decide what form of government they will ultimately have.

If we truly were a Democracy and could vote on wars, I think the last country we would have given "Democracy" to would have been Japan. All other wars since have been completely unnnecessary.

When I'm saying "you", I'm obviously and certainly not referring to you or any other American citizen, especially to the ones who are aware of the "Giving Democracy to the World" lie. With that sentence I'm trying to refer to that very lie itself. And please don't tell me that that lie isn't said and told by million times, actually billion times by the prevailing media which is belonging to no one else but those rich people you mentioned.

Actually the most disgusting thing isn't even the lie itself but the way it's been said. It was almost like "Look isn't it glowing! They are gonna have freedom and democracy!", while all that blowing a lot of "stuff" up was happening! It is disgusting and wicked as much as the terrorists blowing "stuff".