Hitting the NBA Paywall: Six Intriguing Extension Candidates by Zach Lowe
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seattlejazzfan
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Sometimes that's the only way to compare players who don't get the same amount of minutes. But lucky for you there were other stats listed there as well!
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And lets not forget that burks gets to line at a good clip despite the fact that he is a lesser known player playing on a horrible small market jazz team.
I would guess that the guys that get to the line at a better rate than burks are probably more well know players and probably play on better teams.
I think most of us know that the refs dont treat all players equal..... i doubt that alec burks would be very high on thier preferred players list, yet he still gets to the line alot.
You simply do not pay that for someone that sits that far down the pecking order. But he doesn't have a crystal ball and his word isn't quite gospel.
I think he can be a legit 3rd option in a legit lineup or a 1st option on a **** lineup (like he's already done).
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a, I never said I thought he would be a "4th-5th best player on a starting team". The jury is still out on his development.
b, I never said that he is deserving of 11per. I just figured that since we overpaid for Hayward (I personally didn't think he'd be offered anything more than 12mill), we will probably have to overpay for Burks as well.
His actual value is somewhere between 8-9mill, taking his previous season into account and anticipating some improvement. At least IMO.
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Call me crazy, but I actually think Burks has a better starters game while Hayward is more suited coming off the bench, also in my opinion, had Burks been drafted first then Hayward second, we'd be viewing Burks as a better starter and thinking of Hayward as a natural 6th man.
Burks has never been a starter, and all he's ever known as an nba player is a backup roll so that has contributed to his style of play. If he starts all year this year, and gets a solid 32-36 minutes he'll change how we think of him.
As time goes by with Burks as a starter, his game will evolve, and his playmaking skills could blossom. I really do see that kind of player in him.
Jazz4ever
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The notion Burks is some lifelong 6th man is utter crap. He has great size and athleticism for his position. We just watched the USA comfortably win the gold by shooting, for the most part, step back jumpers. Every other team had better chemistry, but it didn't matter because we were 2" longer at each position and could jump 5 inches higher than their guys. There would be an argument if Burks couldn't hit a three or pass the ball, but 35% is quite respectable as is 3.4 assists, both above league average for SGs.
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And this is why he'll get paid in RFA if we let it get to that.
If he can be a legit and consistent third option, inside a good offense, then let him prove it and pay him the money. There's no way in hell I'd extend him at the upper range given here -- the only corner in the world that views Burks as worth more than maybe $8-9mm (not even SB nation voters thought that).
So far he's shown the offense cannot go through him and he requires someone to create for him. I see third options more like Barbosa, Ginobili, Kevin Martin, etc. Someone who can create with all the pressure and focus still on them. Is Burks that guy? Will he become that guy?
BTW, I'm predicting his 3pt% and improved defense this season earns him an extra million or two. He's not the 36% 3 point shooter his stat says he is, but can he do better in a more airy system?
I think he shot %42 on spot-up 3s and that's a very good number. I would rather he improve his mid-range game, shooting, drive and kick, get a floater, and use the goddamn pick. He rejects the pick all the time and he scores better in iso situations than pick and rolls.
I would give him 10 max but I am somewhat generous(I am not the one paying anyway). I would have given Hay 13-14 max.
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Also, I kind of wanted to get into how Corbin's **** system actually played up to Burks' strengths very well, but I'm afraid it would get trolled to death and this forum doesn't seem to care much about basketball intricacies.
For those who are interested, basically the side to side perimeter swings, pnr then pass and pnr again, drive and dish motion O did a whole lot for Alec's game as it gave him a lot of looks driving into lanes where defenders were turning around to adjust and also crowded on the opposite perimeter. For all the hate Ty got over his "misuse" of Burks there should be a lot of admiration. I doubt he would have prospered the same way in a much better, more complex system.
For those who are interested, basically the side to side perimeter swings, pnr then pass and pnr again, drive and dish motion O did a whole lot for Alec's game as it gave him a lot of looks driving into lanes where defenders were turning around to adjust and also crowded on the opposite perimeter. For all the hate Ty got over his "misuse" of Burks there should be a lot of admiration. I doubt he would have prospered the same way in a much better, more complex system.
_/¯. What can I say. I think there is something compelling about conviction. This is my understanding of faith I suppose.Man I remember after a game early last season just feeling like he was done. Looked absolutely awful.
I very much enjoyed his turnaround last year, because I thought he might be out of the league.
Yep.