Hollinger "Draft Rater" Board

[MrBlue]

I don't think it was Teague's fault that the Hawks coaches buried on him the bench his first few years. He was great against Chicago in the playoffs.

 

[sirkickyass]

Tristan Thompson at #3. Wow.

The copy from the article on him is pretty interesting. Essentially it posits that among the big men for whom he has data Derek Williams and Thompson are in a class above everyone else. It really seems to be a good justification for #12.

I don't think it was Teague's fault that the Hawks coaches buried on him the bench his first few years. He was great against Chicago in the playoffs.

Two points on that:

1) I suspect he got a lot of traction because the Bulls had such low expectations they basically left him alone
2) How much stock do we put into a single playoff series? Visions of Tyronn Lue and Jerome James are flashing through my mind here.

Since it might be of interest here's what the Draft Rater looked like for last year's draft:

1 DeMarcus Cousins Kentucky 16.14
2. Evan Turner Ohio State 14.79
3. John Wall Kentucky 14.68
4. Greg Monroe Georgetown 14.39
5. Derrick Favors Georgia Tech 13.98
6. Xavier Henry Kansas 13.52
7. Luke Babbitt Nevada 13.35
8. Al-Farouq Aminu Wake Forest 13.30
9. Wes Johnson Syracuse 13.03
10. Greivis Vasquez Maryland 12.97
11. Sylven Landesberg Virginia 12.52
12. Omar Samhan Saint Mary's 12.47

Some of those names are brutal but it looks like he got the top largely correct (Gordon Hayward was #17). Xavier Henry is, at this point, an incomplete.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Tristan Thompson should be a good versatile pro - a bit like Ed Davis. I think he should go to Detroit or Charlotte. He's the kind of guy the Jazz would take also. It's just that he's a bit undersized for PF.

 

[r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t]

FWIW: I take these ratings somewhat seriously. In particular I remember a couple of years ago it would have made Ty Lawson a high lottery pick which looks prescient today vs. his actual draft standing and relative position vis a vis guys like Jonny Flynn and Jeff Teague.

Hollinger versus the NBA GMs:

https://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/16103/john-hollingers-computer-is-talking-smack

 

[NUMBERICA]

I've largely ignored Tristan Thompson. I think it's time I do some more research.

 

[Dr. Jones]

I like Tristan, but not for the Jazz. (need)

 

[sirkickyass]

I like Tristan, but not for the Jazz. (need)

Let's assume that Tristan Thompson pans out for a second (I know, it's an assumption but work with me here): What about some variation on taking Thompson at #12, taking the point guard the Jazz apparently are dead-set on taking at #3 and then trading Millsap or Jefferson for Enes Kanter's draft slot?

If we're really committed to the youth movement that would give us a solid base of whichever PG the Jazz like, Gordon Hayward, and a three-man young big rotation of Favors, Kanter, and Thompson with Millsap or Jefferson there to help guide them along. Essentially the only position we wouldn't have a strong prospect waiting in the wings would be SF.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Just not sure why we need Tristan on that team. Gimme Hamilton. I'm not sold on drafting a PG in this draft, next draft, or the draft after that (weak).

 

[sirkickyass]

Just not sure why we need Tristan on that team. Gimme Hamilton. I'm not sold on drafting a PG in this draft, next draft, or the draft after that (weak).

I'm not either, but at this point I'm treating it like a given based on every indication we've gotten over the last month.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

The only way I see us getting T Thompson is if we trade Millsap away for a veteran wing player, or a pick to get a wing player, thus drafting Thompson to be our backup PF.

 

[Dr. Jones]

I just don't see a scenario that would make me feel good about drafting Thompson (based on team need). I don't see him being better than Sap, and I'd rather swing for a player that could potentially be a starter.

 

[sepanol]

Tristan thompson? is it a joke?