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Hollinger's playoff odds in relation to the tank rank

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I think Hollingers playoff odds https://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/playoffodds are a pretty good predictor of the actual record we will have at the end of the season. This should be something we follow. Currently, it has us finishing tied with LA Lakers and Orlando tied for the third worst record, and the bottom ten look like this:

1. Milwaukee
2. Philly
T3. Utah, Lakers, Orlando
6. Cleveland
T7. Sacramento, Boston
T9. Brooklyn, Detroit

Of those teams, Brooklyn, Detroit and Cleveland seem like they want to be in the playoffs. The two teams that are not ashamed of their tank seem to be Orlando and Milwaukee. Utah, Boston, and Philly seem to be confused about what they want to do with their lives, and no one knows what Sacramento and the Lakers will do at this point.

If I had to guess, I would put Utah in the top five of tanking teams, which would mean at the very worst, we would get the 8th pick, but that would mean that three teams outside of the top five jumped into the top 5. So to reiterate what has been said like 9 million times already, we need to be worse!

One reason I do think we will be worse than our record over the last 22 games (11-11, I believe) is because we have been winning a lot of close games, and our point differential is horrendous. Point differential is a pretty good indicator of what a team actually is. I heard on a podcast that the Jazz actually have the point differential of a team that should have gone like 5-17 in the last 22 games.

The other variable is if the Jazz make some trades. If we trade away Jefferson or Marvin, that means Kanter will have to start playing a lot, and Favors and Kanter will need some time to figure out how to not play horribly together, meaning our record will probably go back to stinking again.
 
Good find. Notice that there's also a "lottery" column on the far right, the chance of winning the lottery. Jazz currently rank #4 in the lottery column, behind Milwaukee, Philly, and Lakers.

Good point. That probably takes into account the chance that the GS pick wins the lottery as well, even if it is just a tiny chance.
 
Good find. Notice that there's also a "lottery" column on the far right, the chance of winning the lottery. Jazz currently rank #4 in the lottery column, behind Milwaukee, Philly, and Lakers.

Not going to lie. That insanely offends me. I will riot if it happens. Look for a skinny white guy burning tires and cars, dodging police and spray painting obscene things about the Lakers on the Utah news.
 
He has Chicago at 39 wins. They will play some of the ugliest basketball you've ever seen. 10-49 is very possible the rest of the way.


Jazz are lucky to be in the strong West.
 
We need Gasol to turn back the clock and lead the Lakers to a much better record. The Bynum for Gasol deal not happening was great news for the Jazz.
 
Good point. That probably takes into account the chance that the GS pick wins the lottery as well, even if it is just a tiny chance.

If GS wins the lottery, they keep the pick and we get two second round picks.
 
If GS wins the lottery, they keep the pick and we get two second round picks.

Wtf?
Are you just trying to hurt us bro?
 
Glad to see this is up and running. I looked for it last month and it wasn't available yet for this season. Definitely love to track this although it has its limitations. I started the season thinking 25ish and was congratulating myself when they started out 1-14. However finishing with 28 wins (16-29 finish) seems awfully low right now. I'd guess that is excessively influenced by the early season struggles (and point differential), which have improved with Burke and Williams. Jazz have played .500 ball in the last 22. If that keeps up (or close) they probably hit 30-35 wins.

The loss of Deng isn't reflected in Chicago's projection yet. I'd expect them to fall off quite a bit. Cleveland may improve to offset.
 
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