Home Invasions

Rubashov

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So there has been a spate of home invasion in Melbourne over the last few years with offenders (Typically juveniles and/or drug users armed with knives and bats) breaking into peoples homes, assaulting them and stealing cars and other easy to take valuables. The community is both scared and sick of it and home owners have begun to defend themselves.


Scenes like this are becoming more familiar, last week a man came home and found a home invader in his house who had just murdered his mother, he subsequently nearly beat the guy to death. (I believe he was prevented in doing so by Police officers responding to the home invasion.) Today another home owner hospitalised a home invader. Both these men will likely be charged with a criminal offence, while I'd like to believe that no jury would convict them I wouldn't guarantee it. What are the laws in Utah?
 

Wes Mantooth

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That looked like some white trash. Nice Mercedes, meanwhile there’s **** just piled on the side of the house.
 

tfivas

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You break into my house, you're getting ****ed up....even if you run out the front door. I'll accept the consequences.
 

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So there has been a spate of home invasion in Melbourne over the last few years with offenders (Typically juveniles and/or drug users armed with knives and bats) breaking into peoples homes, assaulting them and stealing cars and other easy to take valuables. The community is both scared and sick of it and home owners have begun to defend themselves.


Scenes like this are becoming more familiar, last week a man came home and found a home invader in his house who had just murdered his mother, he subsequently nearly beat the guy to death. (I believe he was prevented in doing so by Police officers responding to the home invasion.) Today another home owner hospitalised a home invader. Both these men will likely be charged with a criminal offence, while I'd like to believe that no jury would convict them I wouldn't guarantee it. What are the laws in Utah?
The laws in Utah basically allow you to kill the person and absolutely no charges will be filed against you.
 

bigb

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The laws in Utah basically allow you to kill the person and absolutely no charges will be filed against you.
As long as they're still actually in your house, from what I understand. If they're on your front porch or in your backyard, it's a completely different thing.
 

Rubashov

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The laws in Utah basically allow you to kill the person and absolutely no charges will be filed against you.
As long as they're still actually in your house, from what I understand. If they're on your front porch or in your backyard, it's a completely different thing.
So I'm pretty sure the first guy will claim self defence and win pretty easy, however he'll still be paying out a fortune in legal fees. The second dude chased the guy I reckon thats gonna be an issue for him.
Couple of years back a dude in New South Wales found somebody in his 6 year old (can't remember exact age but it was a young child) daughters room, took him down and the guy died from positional asphyxiation, initially it looked like he might be charged, the dead man was aboriginal which added an extra layer to it. Anyway it came out that the dead man was also a convicted child sex offender and had a fairly long record of arrests for aggravated burglary and in the end public pressure meant that it was ruled that charging the man was not in the public interest.
 

idestroyedthetoilet

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In Utah, if someone breaks into your house and your dog attacks them, you can be held responsible for any injuries caused by your dog. It's ****ing bizarre.

https://www.ksl.com/article/46370759/your-dog-protects-you-but-does-the-law-protect-your-dog
I looked up the code and it sends us to comparative negligence:

https://le.utah.gov/xcode/Title78B/Chapter5/78B-5-S818.html?v=C78B-5-S818_1800010118000101

Sounds like in this instance the jury could easily side with the owner having 0% and the repairman being 100% negligent.
 
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