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Hot Rod has Alzheimer's

Hack said:
Its well known that he liked to drink. I wouldn't doubt it if the drinking has something to do with it. Kids, watch your alcohol intake. It causes brain damage.

Hot Rod was a stud. Very crappy news. Best play by play guy ever. Which is why its is so hard to get used to Locke's dumbass.

I had the privilege of meeting Hot rod and hanging out with him back in the day. He used to go to the bar Demetris a lot. I would see him there a lot. Used to be one of my favorite bars back in the day. They closed it down though. Very cool guy.
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I've never read that alcohol consumption is tied to Alzheimer's disease. Do you have a source on this or are you just preaching to the choir. Regardless, I hate this disease. It is a very sad way to go especially when you start forgetting your loved ones and the live you lived. Just imagine when the disease is in full affect, Hot Rod won't even remember being an announcer. Just plain sad.
 
I can't decide what is worse, having a disease that affects mental cognition like Alzheimer's, or a disease that affects the body like ALS. I think I would prefer Alzheimer's. The drugs for Alzheimer's seem to make a big difference. People tend to function well and appear fairly happy and then have a huge drop off before death. I used to volunteer in an adult day care center, and many of the people with Alzheimer's function fairly well. My favorite was a guy that every time his wife came to pick him up would "run around" and yell: "Hitler is here, Hitler is here!" Everyone (except his wife) always laughed.
 
cowhide said:
I've never read that alcohol consumption is tied to Alzheimer's disease. Do you have a source on this or are you just preaching to the choir. Regardless, I hate this disease. It is a very sad way to go especially when you start forgetting your loved ones and the live you lived. Just imagine when the disease is in full affect, Hot Rod won't even remember being an announcer. Just plain sad.
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No I dont have a source. Ive seen what alcohol can do to the mind and the central nervous system. It isnt pretty. Its also well documented fact that drinking effects the memory. I dont thinks its a stretch to connect the two.
 
Hack said:
No I dont have a source. Ive seen what alcohol can do to the mind and the central nervous system. It isnt pretty. Its also well documented fact that drinking effects the memory. I dont thinks its a stretch to connect the two.
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Different studies have had different (but somewhat inconclusive based on what I have seen) results. I have read that moderate alcohol consumption can reduce the risk of Alzheimer's. I have also read that drinking alcohol in large amounts can contribute to it.

An excess of anything, be it water, alcohol, tacos, reading this forum, is not going to be good for you.
 
Stoked said:
Nothing scares me more than my wife getting Alzheimer's before I die.
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Fixed.

JAZZGASM said:
I can't decide what is worse, having a disease that affects mental cognition like Alzheimer's, or a disease that affects the body like ALS. I think I would prefer Alzheimer's. The drugs for Alzheimer's seem to make a big difference. People tend to function well and appear fairly happy and then have a huge drop off before death. I used to volunteer in an adult day care center, and many of the people with Alzheimer's function fairly well. My favorite was a guy that every time his wife came to pick him up would "run around" and yell: "Hitler is here, Hitler is here!" Everyone (except his wife) always laughed.
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Doesn't sound any different than the [sane] old farts I work with, and the younger Catholic men too.
 
just mainly an anecdotal opinion here, but I think the closest connection between alzheimer's and alcoholism is that someone who drinks excessively can have similar symptoms and behaviors as someone suffering from alzheimer's - I don't think there's a cause and effect relationship between the two, just that alcoholism can cause symptoms that are similar to those caused by alzheimer's



this isn't exactly "new" news, but it's interesting

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/05/130520154217.htm

For the first time, scientists at Cambridge’s Department of Chemistry have been able to map in detail the pathway that generates “aberrant” forms of proteins which are at the root of neurodegenerative conditions such as Alzheimer’s.

They believe the breakthrough is a vital step closer to increased capabilities for earlier diagnosis of neurological disorders such as Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s, and opens up possibilities for a new generation of targeted drugs, as scientists say they have uncovered the earliest stages of the development of Alzheimer’s that drugs could possibly target.

The study, published today in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, is a milestone in the long-term research established in Cambridge by Professor Christopher Dobson and his colleagues, following the realisation by Dobson of the underlying nature of protein ‘misfolding’ and its connection with disease over 15 years ago.

The research is likely to have a central role to play in diagnostic and drug development for dementia-related diseases, which are increasingly prevalent and damaging as populations live longer.
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I have been a long-time lurker here. I have been following the Jazz since the Salt Palace days and this website since the Jerry-Sloan-goes-golfing and I-saw-Boozer's-wife-at-Best-Buy threads. I had to come out of the shadows after reading Gameface's comments and offer a pat on the back for the class act post. Very sad news. I would take Hot Rod any day, even those days when his words where slurred a bit, over the current Jazz announcers. Godspeed Hot Rod.
 
Gameface said:
It is a stretch. Latest info is that sleeping well is the best way to prevent Alzheimer's. https://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/21/us-poor-sleep-alzheimers-idUSBRE99K0WV20131021
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Rubbish.

Like Moe said, the symptoms are very similar.

Ive seen it. Ive felt it. I believe it.

People can get away with drinking in their early years because the body regenerates more quickly. The older you get the slower that goes. Alcohol damages the brain. Its not really an argument. We are talking about a brain disease. Disease can come from some sort of unhealthy abuse.

Its not a stretch.
 
JAZZGASM said:
My grandfather was a big Jazz fan. He went blind for the last 10 years of his life. Because of Hot Rod he was still able to sit in front of the TV and enjoy the games with the family due to Hot Rod's style.

Of course, the play by play style that used to be the standard in the NBA has changed to have more banter and off-court information (with separate radio broadcast).

Hot Rod retired from television at roughly the same time as Stockton and Malone. No more yo-yo-ing, frozen ropes, belt-high dribble, old refrigerator, cow hide globe... It was a fitting end to a great era.
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Wow, you brought back memories with all those terms, although you missed one of my favorites...leapin' leaner. Hot Rod and Chick Hearn were so much better than any other announcers; those two are in a class all by themselves. As many have mentioned, Hot Rod allowed the listener to "see" the game even over the radio. Alzheimer's is a horrible, horrible disease. Although his drinking MAY have contributed to it, that isn't necessarily the case. My grandmother developed Alzheimer's and she did not consume alcohol.
 
Hack said:
Rubbish.

Like Moe said, the symptoms are very similar.

Ive seen it. Ive felt it. I believe it.

People can get away with drinking in their early years because the body regenerates more quickly. The older you get the slower that goes. Alcohol damages the brain. Its not really an argument. We are talking about a brain disease. Disease can come from some sort of unhealthy abuse.

Its not a stretch.
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It is a stretch. There are proteins that are built up in the brains of people with Alzheimer's and alcohol doesn't cause that. If there were a definitive link it would have been relatively easy to prove. No one with any credibility would say "long term excessive drinking = you'll get Alzheimer's"
 
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