Houston..
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Beantown
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Is this a joke or are you that dumb?
Nobody is saying climate change is creating new types of weather events..........
It's that climate change is leading to more powerful and devastating storms not previously seen in human existence.
LOL is anybody really this gullible? Let me guess we are gonna see a huge increase in volcanic activity to.
Beantown
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So SCIENTISTS say we are going to continue to see RECORD breaking weather as a result of climate change.
But then they continue to happen it's just coincidence, right?
Sounds like you wasn't alive in the 70's when they claimed a ice age was upon us. Settled science right. Fake news.
candrew
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This won't get Katrina bad - but you're going to see a lot of unpleasant images coming out of southeastern Texas over the next few days.
Houston didn't evacuate (they couldn't, too big) so there are going to be tens of thousands of washed out folks without basic services for a while.
And I'm not saying anything controversial when I say Texas is anything but a social welfare state. Having lived there for a while I can tell you everything is privatized and state run services are at a bare minimum.
And of course this happens (again) right after another republican administration proposed a billion dollars in cuts to FEMA.
This could get ugly.
Houston didn't evacuate (they couldn't, too big) so there are going to be tens of thousands of washed out folks without basic services for a while.
And I'm not saying anything controversial when I say Texas is anything but a social welfare state. Having lived there for a while I can tell you everything is privatized and state run services are at a bare minimum.
And of course this happens (again) right after another republican administration proposed a billion dollars in cuts to FEMA.
This could get ugly.
DutchJazzer
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12 years ago there was katrina. people said we need to get used to a yealry katrina because of climate change!
well 12 years later we have another big tropical storm.
sad for those people ofcourse.
but move along this is not climate change
DutchJazzer
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it is a scumbag move for politicizing this!
Beantown
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Climate change is political. It's science bro.
Beantown
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Between that we just had record breaking droughts in the west and east coasts.
Beantown
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DutchJazzer
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how do you solve it scientifically?
all plans i hear dinclude mass governemtn overreach which is political!
Florida gets hit with deadly tropical storms just about every year. Low-elevation cities on the gulf are susceptible to getting hit. Most areas aren't as populated as Houston, obviously. Is this storm really worse than others of the past 15 or 20 years?
Are you ****ing serious? Do you see how much rainfall is happening?
Beantown
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I've only said "record breaking" like 10 times in this thread.
Beantown
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But it's the government's job to help solve problems.
Red
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For anyone interested, there are at present a wealth of articles discussing the effect of climate change on Hurricane Harvey. Here are a few...
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/28/climate-change-hurricane-harvey-more-deadly
http://theweek.com/articles/720740/hurricane-harvey-americas-climate-future
https://www.theatlantic.com/science...ate-change-intensify-hurricane-harvey/538158/
The well above average surface temparure of the waters of the Gulf at the moment, and the greater depth of that warm layer would seem to be a contributing factor, among others, affecting what we are seeing...
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/28/climate-change-hurricane-harvey-more-deadly
http://theweek.com/articles/720740/hurricane-harvey-americas-climate-future
https://www.theatlantic.com/science...ate-change-intensify-hurricane-harvey/538158/
The well above average surface temparure of the waters of the Gulf at the moment, and the greater depth of that warm layer would seem to be a contributing factor, among others, affecting what we are seeing...
Beantown
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Nice work, the Guardian had an article only 2 months ago that talked about Houston's vulnerabilty to climate change.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jun/16/texas-flooding-houston-climate-change-disaster
These "100 year" storms are happening yearly.
Red
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Can anyone spot the contradiction?? Lol....
"Meanwhile, with Louisiana also on tap for serious flooding as the rains continue and tornadoes threaten, the president quickly displayed a childlike—and uncharacteristic—awe of “experts”: “Wow - Now experts are calling #Harvey a once in 500 year flood!” he tweeted. Who are those experts? They are climate scientists like Michael E. Mann, a Pennsylvania State University professor of atmospheric science, who directs the university’s Earth Systems Science Center.
On Facebook, Mann had this to say about Harvey and climate change:
There are certain climate change-related factors that we can, with great confidence, say worsened the flooding. Not only are the surface waters of the Gulf unusually warm right now, but there is a deep layer of warm water that Harvey was able to feed upon when it intensified at near record pace as it neared the coast. Human-caused warming is penetrating down into the ocean, warming not just the surface but creating deeper layers of warm water in the Gulf and elsewhere. So Harvey was almost certainly more intense than it would have been in the absence of human-caused warming, which means stronger winds, more wind damage, and a larger storm surge.
Now that Trump is dazzled by experts, presumably like Mann, it will be interesting to see how the person who has filled such longtime bastions of science as the EPA with climate deniers responds to those who have linked this event to the warming of waters of the Gulf of Mexico."
http://prospect.org/article/will-harvey-dent-trump’s-climate-change-denial-probably-not
"Meanwhile, with Louisiana also on tap for serious flooding as the rains continue and tornadoes threaten, the president quickly displayed a childlike—and uncharacteristic—awe of “experts”: “Wow - Now experts are calling #Harvey a once in 500 year flood!” he tweeted. Who are those experts? They are climate scientists like Michael E. Mann, a Pennsylvania State University professor of atmospheric science, who directs the university’s Earth Systems Science Center.
On Facebook, Mann had this to say about Harvey and climate change:
There are certain climate change-related factors that we can, with great confidence, say worsened the flooding. Not only are the surface waters of the Gulf unusually warm right now, but there is a deep layer of warm water that Harvey was able to feed upon when it intensified at near record pace as it neared the coast. Human-caused warming is penetrating down into the ocean, warming not just the surface but creating deeper layers of warm water in the Gulf and elsewhere. So Harvey was almost certainly more intense than it would have been in the absence of human-caused warming, which means stronger winds, more wind damage, and a larger storm surge.
Now that Trump is dazzled by experts, presumably like Mann, it will be interesting to see how the person who has filled such longtime bastions of science as the EPA with climate deniers responds to those who have linked this event to the warming of waters of the Gulf of Mexico."
http://prospect.org/article/will-harvey-dent-trump’s-climate-change-denial-probably-not