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No, that isn’t capitalism.

The sweatshirt got removed because of a complaint.

Capitalism would it being removed because it didn’t sell, because people didn’t like the message.

There’s a large difference between the two.

Sorry, but unless you think capitalism is opposed to free speech and protests, removing merchandise because you are worried about consumer backlash, or because you agree with a stated principle, is capitalism at it's finest. Just because you don't like doesn't make it untrue.
 
Sorry, but unless you think capitalism is opposed to free speech and protests, removing merchandise because you are worried about consumer backlash, or because you agree with a stated principle, is capitalism at it's finest. Just because you don't like doesn't make it untrue.
Better observation:

Log observes problem in capitalist society that he doesn’t like. OB jokes, “you mustn’t like capitalism, then,” revealing a kind of bias that presumes dislike of something is synonymous with bureaucratic intervention to stop it. It apparently does not register that one can disagree with capitalistic actions without calling for governmental regulation against it, which would be the only application wherein someone would expose their hypocritical views toward capitalism.

Ergo, I believe in free speech. I think some of the things my neighbor says is crass and offensive, and I think it would be wise for him to not say them or find a more appropriate way to communicate. Does that make me against free speech, and would me not liking such speech always be accompanied by desiring a third party prohibit his speech?

Tl;dr is it possible to prefer capitalism while simultaneously not liking decisions that can result from it? Is it possible to support free speech without liking all speech that comes as a result?
 
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Are they suing the school for their lack of action against the “bullying” or suing the family for their kid’s bullying?

Either way, I think the case will be thrown out of court (if it even gets that far) and be some good water cooler talk for 3 mins among court workers.

There’s always some nutjobs out there. But it is somewhat indicative of where we are as a society. We tend to get offended over any perceived slight.
And is that the whole story? I mean it's easy to summarize it in a way to make it as ridiculous as possible, but is it possible things much more substantial than saying "weird pizza" happened?
 
oh man, so much value added in this thread

I kid you not (kid as in joke, child or baby goat, take your pick)

Seriously, though, as another sign of things perhaps going too far...
(I may have already posted this true anecdote somewhere in another thread)

A good friend whose son lives in Berkeley (CA) shared a conversation he'd had with co-workers where one mentioned something "cute" his 2-year old DAUGHTER did and another co-worker corrected him and told him it is incorrect for him to refer to his child as his "daughter" because she has not yet chosen her gender identity - - he should only use the term "my child" or some other non-gender specific term until such time as the child decides its gender identity.

so there you have it

The father should’ve turned to the douchebag and said, “You’re a ****ing idiot.” And walked away.
 
How about this one?

I don't think it's wrong.. but I mean, the person that set up the scene... didn't they think it odd having 1 guy and 5 girls surrounding him?

 
So evidently I’m lying.
No, but have you spoken to the parents who are suing? I'm not saying you are misrepresenting the situation, but that the situation might be generally misrepresented to school faculty. I'm not even asserting that it was willfully misrepresented.

But the McDonald's hot coffee case is a really good example. It's generally told that some dumb woman spilled hot coffee on her lap and decided to sue for 1 million dollars. And then some dumb judge and jury gave it to her. Coffee is hot, duh! The facts of that case are much more complicated than that.
 
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Over the top PC craziness or monumentally important cause for social justice?

Telling to me how far this is going is the fact that the complaint was almost immediately complied with. No dissenting voices heard. The faceless masses have spoken and must be obeyed or livelihoods will be destroyed. Seems to be the currently prevailing current.

Thoughts?
Over the top PC craziness
 
oh man, so much value added in this thread

I kid you not (kid as in joke, child or baby goat, take your pick)

Seriously, though, as another sign of things perhaps going too far...
(I may have already posted this true anecdote somewhere in another thread)

A good friend whose son lives in Berkeley (CA) shared a conversation he'd had with co-workers where one mentioned something "cute" his 2-year old DAUGHTER did and another co-worker corrected him and told him it is incorrect for him to refer to his child as his "daughter" because she has not yet chosen her gender identity - - he should only use the term "my child" or some other non-gender specific term until such time as the child decides its gender identity.

so there you have it
SMD (dreads)
 
And is that the whole story? I mean it's easy to summarize it in a way to make it as ridiculous as possible, but is it possible things much more substantial than saying "weird pizza" happened?

My thoughts exactly. In the real world, things that sound as ridiculous as this don’t make it this far unless there is some actual merit, barring a few that may slip through the cracks some how. I’d bet ol’ righty that there’s more to it than what’s been said - I don’t think any info has been left out maliciously, but rather, it just hasn’t been reported, or in this case, told to Mr. Pederast.

So evidently I’m lying.

While it wouldn’t surprise me if you were, nobody here is calling you a liar.

No, but have you spoken to the parents who are suing? I'm not saying you are misrepresenting the situation, but that the situation might be generally misrepresented to school faculty. I'm not even asserting that it was willfully misrepresented.

But the McDonald's hot coffee case is a really good example. It's generally told that some dumb woman spilled hot coffee on her lap and decided to sue for 1 million dollars. And then some dumb judge and jury gave it to her. Coffee is hot, duh! The facts of that case are much more complicated than that.

The perfect reply, tbh.

Who’s to say that in the weeks or months prior to the pizza incident, the alleged offender didn’t make snarky remarks about the Native American regarding his hair, or the way he looked, smelled, etc.? Again, putting my nut on the line, I’d bet that there is a history of this kind of stuff between the two kids and maybe their groups of friends.

I’ll also say that I’m biased in this particular situation, as I find biggotry toward Native Americans, whom I have an enormous soft spot in my heart for, more unsavory than any other kind.

Making judgements without knowing both sides is folly, and while I’m guilty of doing it ALL the time, in this instance it seems like an absolute necessity to actually have all the facts first.



Either that, or the PC crowd has infiltrated deeper than most of us would dare guess, and we’re in deeper horse apples than we think.
 
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My thoughts exactly. In the real world, things that sound as ridiculous as this don’t make it this far unless there is some actual merit, barring a few that may slip through the cracks some how. I’d bet ol’ righty that there’s more to it than what’s been said - I don’t think any info has been left out maliciously, but rather, it just hasn’t been reported, or in this case, told to Mr. Pederast.



While it wouldn’t surprise me if you were, nobody here is calling you a liar.



The perfect reply, tbh.

Who’s to say that in the weeks or months prior to the pizza incident, the alleged offender didn’t make snarky remarks about the Native American regarding his hair, or the way he looked, smelled, etc.? Again, putting my nut on the line, I’d bet that there is a history of this kind of stuff between the two kids and maybe their groups of friends.

I’ll also say that I’m biased in this particular situation, as I find biggotry toward Native Americans, whom I have an enormous soft spot in my heart for, more unsavory than any other kind.

Making judgements without knowing both sides is folly, and while I’m guilty of doing it ALL the time, in this instance it seems like an absolute necessity to actually have all the facts first.



Either that, or the PC crowd has infiltrated deeper than most of us would dare guess, and we’re in deeper horse apples than we think.

Dave, do me a favor. Please shut the **** up.

I can’t believe I ever donated to your pathetic campaigns and were the first ****ing guy on this site to defend you time and time again.

You’ve been the site’s biggest ********** for 20 years running, and I continually stuck up for your dumbass, knowing your idiocy was always tongue in cheek, or jus **** talk, and I make one or two comments joking about your kids, and I’m the ****ing worst. **** off. Don’t go around spreading your douchines if you can’t take it here or there.
 
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