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BTW can Mangum succeed without the tallest WR's in college football? He relies on those guys bailing him out and winning jump balls a lot. He should have thrown 3 more picks today than he did DB's just missed the INT's.
 
gregbroncs said:
BTW can Mangum succeed without the tallest WR's in college football? He relies on those guys bailing him out and winning jump balls a lot. He should have thrown 3 more picks today than he did DB's just missed the INT's.
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You can't really down him for playing to his WR's strengths.
 
trigg3r said:
Do they? Yes. Did they display a good offense? Of course not. They definitely missed Booker but it also comes down to terrible throws from Wilson and complacency after the big 1st quarter. It seems like Kyle plays not to lose at times rather than finishing games out like you should. Credit goes to the BYU defense but I also feel the conservative play calling didn't help either. JMO.
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This is all true, but it doesn't go far enough. An aggressive defense got them that lead, but after they had it they stopped playing aggressive defense. They backed off and started letting BYU get a rhythm.
 
gregbroncs said:
BTW can Mangum succeed without the tallest WR's in college football? He relies on those guys bailing him out and winning jump balls a lot. He should have thrown 3 more picks today than he did DB's just missed the INT's.
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A. He is a freshman and was co mvp of the elite 11 qb camp and was the most accurate qb there.

B. Who says he won't have the tallest receivers next year?
9 returning receivers are over 6 foot 2. Five are over 6 foot 3. 3 are over 6 foot 4.

Matthews is definitely a big loss but even looking at this year blackmon (6 foot 2), pearson (6 foot tall), juergens (5 foot 10), and Henderson (6 foot 1) all had allot catches and yards.
Plus the running backs caught some balls.

It's not like he only passed to tall guys. Mangum spreads the ball around. Happened to have 3 super tall dudes, two of them seniors, and he took advantage of that sometimes. Him using his tall weapons doesn't mean he can't throw to shorter guys. Taking advantage of the defense with the weapons at your disposal is what any qb should do.

So in answer to your question.... Yes I think mangum will be a very good qb with whatever body type his receivers have
 
Props to the Utes for coming out ready to take it to the Cougars. Props to the Cougars for not giving up and making it a game. I almost thought they were going to complete the comeback in the fourth quarter. One of the most bizarre games I've ever seen, certainly one to remember for the ages.
 
Oh, and props to both teams and both sets of fans for pretty good sportsmanship all around.
 
fishonjazz said:
A. He is a freshman and was co mvp of the elite 11 qb camp and was the most accurate qb there.

B. Who says he won't have the tallest receivers next year?
9 returning receivers are over 6 foot 2. Five are over 6 foot 3. 3 are over 6 foot 4.

Matthews is definitely a big loss but even looking at this year blackmon (6 foot 2), pearson (6 foot tall), juergens (5 foot 10), and Henderson (6 foot 1) all had allot catches and yards.
Plus the running backs caught some balls.

It's not like he only passed to tall guys. Mangum spreads the ball around. Happened to have 3 super tall dudes, two of them seniors, and he took advantage of that sometimes. Him using his tall weapons doesn't mean he can't throw to shorter guys. Taking advantage of the defense with the weapons at your disposal is what any qb should do.

So in answer to your question.... Yes I think mangum will be a very good qb with whatever body type his receivers have
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Interesting, I guess we'll see.
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I'd guess half his pass attempts against Utah were jump balls. Very few of them were completed. When he got in trouble this game he relied on Jump ball passes a lot, and most of them were incomplete. If he continues to do that with smaller/less athletic receiver's he could get himself in a lot of trouble.

Over all in this game I was semi impressed with Mangum after that 1st quarter, though I do attribute a lot of his success late in the game to Utah backing off on defense.
 
Cappy_Smurf said:
Technicality. I don't think you can call what happened in the 2nd half a success, just because the 35 point lead was barely enough to cause the cougars to run out of time.
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I get what you are saying but I call a win success. The goal of every game is to win. Maybe if whitt calls the offensive plays more aggressively byu gets a few pick 6's.
You never know. What I do know is that whitt went ultra conservative, byu almost cameback, and utah successfully won the game
 
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