How bad is Kanter?

[FalseFlagg K]

Better than being a complete ****ing moron.

and yet you manage the impressive feat of being both !!! Sterling work Sir !!

 

[gomretat]

Next, jazz should have traded kanter earlier when he requested trades internally before he forced jazz hand and lowered his value. Secondly there were other offers but jazz thought that both players they got had potential and could work out at the time. They were wrong, the other offers were probably better looking back. Either way they miss handled the situation and the player. That doesn't mean they haven't done other things well or the team isn't better without him.


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Never heard this. I have assumed they got the best they could get. So who did they pass on that they should have taken? And I will bet that OKC is wondering about the amount they are paying for someone getting 21 minutes a game.

 

[GVC]

and yet you manage the impressive feat of being both !!! Sterling work Sir !!

"I know you are but what am I" has always been one of my favorite comebacks. Real high brow stuff.

 

[Jazz4ever]

This is just unacceptable. You're either a lover or a hater. There's no room for limp-wristed nuance on Jazzfanz.

Nah you got called out on your BS report and folded like a chair, accept it.

 

[Jazz4ever]

Whoops, GVC did a neg. Guess that means he's taking his ball and going home rather than trying to rationalize his "Jazz/DL suxorz" argument.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

I seriously doubt DL was sitting on hands with these guys. But it is also very clear that he was not going to take people in return who took up a lot of cap space unless they were young and could be part of the rebuild process. That works for me.

As far as Al and Millsap go. I was happy to just see them walk. They weren't going to help us win a title, plus it would've been hard to resign our core taking on extra contract$. We can't just be turning over our team every few years or we become the Knicks or clips from yester-year. It takes lots of team chemistry to be a contender. Look at the Stockton and Malone years. How long did it take them to make a finals?

The Thunder were "proactive" when they traded Jeff Green and Nenad Kristic for Kendrick Perkins, Nazr Mohammed, and Nate Robinson and ate up all their cap flexibility they needed to resign James Harden.

Exactly!!!

Next, jazz should have traded kanter earlier when he requested trades internally before he forced jazz hand and lowered his value. Secondly there were other offers but jazz thought that both players they got had potential and could work out at the time. They were wrong, the other offers were probably better looking back. Either way they miss handled the situation and the player. That doesn't mean they haven't done other things well or the team isn't better without him.


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The Jazz as a small market can't afford to just give into demands to be traded as it sets a precedence for all small market teams being held captive by their stars

 

[GVC]

Whoops, GVC did a neg. Guess that means he's taking his ball and going home rather than trying to rationalize his "Jazz/DL suxorz" argument.

You've yet to contribute anything of substance to this thread. I'm more than willing to have a respectful discussion, as I think I've shown with spycam and mdav. There's nothing wrong with disagreeing with the consensus view, or in explaining why you disagree with it. You're welcome at the grownup table whenever you're ready. You might start by reading what I've actually written, and considering the arguments I've made. Your gross mischaracterizations of my arguments reflect very poorly on you.

 

[GVC]

The big dirty secret is that if Gobert doesn't become what he became as soon as he did, we were likely going to resign Kanter.

Pretty reasonable. How excited is the fanbase about the team if that's how it played out?

 

[NUMBERICA]

Whoops, GVC did a neg. Guess that means he's taking his ball and going home rather than trying to rationalize his "Jazz/DL suxorz" argument.

He never said that, *******. That's why you got negged.

 

[JAZZGASM]

I like Kanter and think we managed him wrong, but he is gone, and we need to move the **** on.

 

[Jazz4ever]

You've yet to contribute anything of substance to this thread. I'm more than willing to have a respectful discussion, as I think I've shown with spycam and mdav. There's nothing wrong with disagreeing with the consensus view, or in explaining why you disagree with it. You're welcome at the grownup table whenever you're ready. You might start by reading what I've actually written, and considering the arguments I've made. Your gross mischaracterizations of my arguments reflect very poorly on you.

Don't bother with anything but hard details on how DL could have saved us from the upcoming treadmill. I want names Al or Paul could have returned. I'll look over the team and salary that year and tell you why it wouldn't have happened. You can play the DL should have drafted better card, but he's done above average in weak drafts.

 

[MDAV28]

I also can't accept the argument that the Jazz were better off with worse draft picks. DL could have more easily made the moves he made or made different ones.

Never said they were better off, but I would seriously question whether we would have been better off if we tanked that season. If we can judge Lindsay by the failed attempt to try to develop Kanter, we can judge Lindsay on the success of a great draft given their position and the quality of the draft. I mean we ended up with a guy who should have gone top 3 (Gobert) and even as bad as Burke has been he still is a mid-1st rounder in that draft. You can't knock Linsday for not tanking earlier when in reality we ended up pretty damn good after the draft.